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ZDC radar controller reports a milfac spillout from W107, also involving ZNY. Facsfac vacapes attempted to handoff 2 A10's to ZDC in ZNY airspace, already outside W107. ZDC refused the handoff of the A10's coming into conflict now with air carrier traffic handoff to ZNY. Vacapes turned and descended the A10's, evidently back into W107.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 411019 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199808 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : acy |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Thunderbolt II (Warthog A-10) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 16 controller supervisory : 3 |
| ASRS Report | 411019 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : exit conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 15000 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
Event involved 3 facilities: ZNY, ZDC, and facsfac vacapes (military). The situation involved a passenger aircraft that was a normal jfk departure climbing on J174. Aircraft was handed off by ZNY manta sector to ZDC, sea isle high sector, climbing to FL230, as per LOA. Subsequently, facsfac vacapes called ZNY to advise of a KC135 spillout from W107 at FL210. ZNY manta sector in turn advised ZDC sea isle high of the traffic (KC135). Sea isle high stopped the departure aircraft's climb at FL200 to separate it from the KC135. The tanker was turned back into W107 by facsfac vacapes. Facsfac vacapes then called sea isle high with a manual handoff on 2 A10's (Y) returning to acy at FL200. At this time the A10's were already west of the confines of W107 in ZNY airspace and traffic for the passenger jet (X). The handoff was not accepted by sea isle high. The A10's were turned and descended by facsfac vacapes. Sea isle high called the traffic to the passenger jet (X) and climbed the aircraft. The exiting LOA between ZDC, ZNY and facsfac vacapes requires a minimum of 5 min notification prior to manually handing off aircraft exiting the warning areas. This was not accomplished and would have precluded this incident had the LOA been adhered to.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZDC RADAR CTLR RPTS A MILFAC SPILLOUT FROM W107, ALSO INVOLVING ZNY. FACSFAC VACAPES ATTEMPTED TO HDOF 2 A10'S TO ZDC IN ZNY AIRSPACE, ALREADY OUTSIDE W107. ZDC REFUSED THE HDOF OF THE A10'S COMING INTO CONFLICT NOW WITH ACR TFC HDOF TO ZNY. VACAPES TURNED AND DSNDED THE A10'S, EVIDENTLY BACK INTO W107.
Narrative: EVENT INVOLVED 3 FACILITIES: ZNY, ZDC, AND FACSFAC VACAPES (MIL). THE SIT INVOLVED A PAX ACFT THAT WAS A NORMAL JFK DEP CLBING ON J174. ACFT WAS HANDED OFF BY ZNY MANTA SECTOR TO ZDC, SEA ISLE HIGH SECTOR, CLBING TO FL230, AS PER LOA. SUBSEQUENTLY, FACSFAC VACAPES CALLED ZNY TO ADVISE OF A KC135 SPILLOUT FROM W107 AT FL210. ZNY MANTA SECTOR IN TURN ADVISED ZDC SEA ISLE HIGH OF THE TFC (KC135). SEA ISLE HIGH STOPPED THE DEP ACFT'S CLB AT FL200 TO SEPARATE IT FROM THE KC135. THE TANKER WAS TURNED BACK INTO W107 BY FACSFAC VACAPES. FACSFAC VACAPES THEN CALLED SEA ISLE HIGH WITH A MANUAL HDOF ON 2 A10'S (Y) RETURNING TO ACY AT FL200. AT THIS TIME THE A10'S WERE ALREADY W OF THE CONFINES OF W107 IN ZNY AIRSPACE AND TFC FOR THE PAX JET (X). THE HDOF WAS NOT ACCEPTED BY SEA ISLE HIGH. THE A10'S WERE TURNED AND DSNDED BY FACSFAC VACAPES. SEA ISLE HIGH CALLED THE TFC TO THE PAX JET (X) AND CLBED THE ACFT. THE EXITING LOA BTWN ZDC, ZNY AND FACSFAC VACAPES REQUIRES A MINIMUM OF 5 MIN NOTIFICATION PRIOR TO MANUALLY HANDING OFF ACFT EXITING THE WARNING AREAS. THIS WAS NOT ACCOMPLISHED AND WOULD HAVE PRECLUDED THIS INCIDENT HAD THE LOA BEEN ADHERED TO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.