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Attributes | |
ACN | 411218 |
Time | |
Date | 199808 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 3sg |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 50 msl bound upper : 700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Boeing Company Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : go around landing other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 32 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 290 |
ASRS Report | 411218 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : unable other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
I entered traffic pattern at saginaw harry browne airport (3SG) where my entry was downwind mid-field for runway 23. I radioed my entry into traffic pattern and also upon turning left base and at the 3/4 mi from touchdown point. 2 other aircraft were in the area of the airport. One aircraft was at high altitude with a load of parachute jumpers. The other aircraft later admitted to being in the traffic pattern and was talking to the jump plane pilot. Plus 2 other aircraft in transit were talking on 122.8 (general conversation, nothing airport related) cluttering the frequencys. The other pilot in the traffic pattern was an instructor with a student pilot. The instructor pilot said he did call out his turning on final for runway 9 which I did not hear, probably due to other pilots talking on same frequency. Both the instructor pilot and his student said they heard my radio xmissions but did not see me until I was over the numbers on runway 23, which was more in line with the wind blowing from 170 degrees to 190 degrees. I did not see the other aircraft until I crossed the runway intersection at about 50 ft altitude. He was in the air about 700-800 ft to my right side, turning left. I feel that he knew I was in the pattern and which runway I was landing on, but decided to continue his approach on runway 9. He then had to abort his landing and blamed me as the responsible party. During the flight instructor's reprimand, his last comments were that he radioed his position on final approach before I did and that he had the right-of-way to land first. Also, he had approximately 3000 ft of runway available to land his aircraft before reaching the runway 9/23 runway intersection. My feelings are that the instructor pilot used poor and unsafe judgement in continuing his approach for landing causing an unsafe situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TWO ACFT ATTEMPTED SIMULTANEOUS LNDGS ON XING RWYS AT 3SG, AN UNCTLED ARPT. THE STEARMAN PLT MADE NORMAL TFC PATTERN TO RWY 23 FAVORING THE WIND DIRECTION. AN INSTRUCTOR PLT AND STUDENT LNDG ON XING RWY 09 ABORTED WHEN THEY SAW THE STEARMAN ON APCH AT THE INTXN.
Narrative: I ENTERED TFC PATTERN AT SAGINAW HARRY BROWNE ARPT (3SG) WHERE MY ENTRY WAS DOWNWIND MID-FIELD FOR RWY 23. I RADIOED MY ENTRY INTO TFC PATTERN AND ALSO UPON TURNING L BASE AND AT THE 3/4 MI FROM TOUCHDOWN POINT. 2 OTHER ACFT WERE IN THE AREA OF THE ARPT. ONE ACFT WAS AT HIGH ALT WITH A LOAD OF PARACHUTE JUMPERS. THE OTHER ACFT LATER ADMITTED TO BEING IN THE TFC PATTERN AND WAS TALKING TO THE JUMP PLANE PLT. PLUS 2 OTHER ACFT IN TRANSIT WERE TALKING ON 122.8 (GENERAL CONVERSATION, NOTHING ARPT RELATED) CLUTTERING THE FREQS. THE OTHER PLT IN THE TFC PATTERN WAS AN INSTRUCTOR WITH A STUDENT PLT. THE INSTRUCTOR PLT SAID HE DID CALL OUT HIS TURNING ON FINAL FOR RWY 9 WHICH I DID NOT HEAR, PROBABLY DUE TO OTHER PLTS TALKING ON SAME FREQ. BOTH THE INSTRUCTOR PLT AND HIS STUDENT SAID THEY HEARD MY RADIO XMISSIONS BUT DID NOT SEE ME UNTIL I WAS OVER THE NUMBERS ON RWY 23, WHICH WAS MORE IN LINE WITH THE WIND BLOWING FROM 170 DEGS TO 190 DEGS. I DID NOT SEE THE OTHER ACFT UNTIL I CROSSED THE RWY INTXN AT ABOUT 50 FT ALT. HE WAS IN THE AIR ABOUT 700-800 FT TO MY R SIDE, TURNING L. I FEEL THAT HE KNEW I WAS IN THE PATTERN AND WHICH RWY I WAS LNDG ON, BUT DECIDED TO CONTINUE HIS APCH ON RWY 9. HE THEN HAD TO ABORT HIS LNDG AND BLAMED ME AS THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY. DURING THE FLT INSTRUCTOR'S REPRIMAND, HIS LAST COMMENTS WERE THAT HE RADIOED HIS POS ON FINAL APCH BEFORE I DID AND THAT HE HAD THE RIGHT-OF-WAY TO LAND FIRST. ALSO, HE HAD APPROX 3000 FT OF RWY AVAILABLE TO LAND HIS ACFT BEFORE REACHING THE RWY 9/23 RWY INTXN. MY FEELINGS ARE THAT THE INSTRUCTOR PLT USED POOR AND UNSAFE JUDGEMENT IN CONTINUING HIS APCH FOR LNDG CAUSING AN UNSAFE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.