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ARTCC radar controller concerned with activation of restr area. Traffic management coordinator advises controller activation time, but controller wants activation delayed. Supervisor advises controller restr area is released in 30 seconds, and controller is displeased, but turns traffic away from restr area and objects.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 411359 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199808 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ewo |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 27000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | controller non radar : 17 controller radar : 31 flight time total : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 411359 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
While working the lou high altitude radar position, I was advised by supervisory traffic management coordinator that R3704 cfa would be 'hot' FL300 and below at XA00Z. My response was 'unable.' at approximately XA30Z I was advised that this area would be active 'in about 30 seconds' by area supervisor. I advised him that this was a 'really bad idea' and that 'we shouldn't do that.' I then issued a 50 degree off course vector to aircraft #1, bna to dtw flight, who was about to enter that area. This is a recurring situation. Although controllers repeatedly voice their objections to this airspace delegation during busy periods, no action is taken to halt the activation. This airspace impacts arrs and departures for bna, departures for cvg, and ind, and overflt traffic in one of the busiest high altitude en route sectors in the NAS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC RADAR CTLR CONCERNED WITH ACTIVATION OF RESTR AREA. TFC MGMNT COORDINATOR ADVISES CTLR ACTIVATION TIME, BUT CTLR WANTS ACTIVATION DELAYED. SUPVR ADVISES CTLR RESTR AREA IS RELEASED IN 30 SECONDS, AND CTLR IS DISPLEASED, BUT TURNS TFC AWAY FROM RESTR AREA AND OBJECTS.
Narrative: WHILE WORKING THE LOU HIGH ALT RADAR POS, I WAS ADVISED BY SUPERVISORY TFC MGMNT COORDINATOR THAT R3704 CFA WOULD BE 'HOT' FL300 AND BELOW AT XA00Z. MY RESPONSE WAS 'UNABLE.' AT APPROX XA30Z I WAS ADVISED THAT THIS AREA WOULD BE ACTIVE 'IN ABOUT 30 SECONDS' BY AREA SUPVR. I ADVISED HIM THAT THIS WAS A 'REALLY BAD IDEA' AND THAT 'WE SHOULDN'T DO THAT.' I THEN ISSUED A 50 DEG OFF COURSE VECTOR TO ACFT #1, BNA TO DTW FLT, WHO WAS ABOUT TO ENTER THAT AREA. THIS IS A RECURRING SIT. ALTHOUGH CTLRS REPEATEDLY VOICE THEIR OBJECTIONS TO THIS AIRSPACE DELEGATION DURING BUSY PERIODS, NO ACTION IS TAKEN TO HALT THE ACTIVATION. THIS AIRSPACE IMPACTS ARRS AND DEPS FOR BNA, DEPS FOR CVG, AND IND, AND OVERFLT TFC IN ONE OF THE BUSIEST HIGH ALT ENRTE SECTORS IN THE NAS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.