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Attributes | |
ACN | 411890 |
Time | |
Date | 199808 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ege |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation V |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 9800 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 411890 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
At approximately 15 mi from ege airport, on our 1ST flight to ege, ZDV cleared my aircraft for a visual approach. On initial contact with ege airport tower we were instructed to report a 5 mi final. The PF the aircraft pointed out 5 mi on the DME readout. The PNF reported a 5 mi final. The ege tower cleared our aircraft to land on runway 25. The tower controller at ege airport was busy working 2 different frequencys, tower frequency and ground frequency. During our visual approach the tower controller was issuing IFR clrncs on ground frequency, while working and listening to the tower frequency. This is where the confusion took place and, he later informed our aircraft we were not cleared to land. On our 2ND evening flight to ege airport, ZDV, at approximately 15 mi, cleared us for a visual approach. On initial contact, ege airport tower told us to continue towards the airport. At the same time an aircraft was waiting to depart on an IFR flight plan. We canceled our IFR flight plan so the ege tower controller could release the aircraft on the ground for departure. The tower controller released the aircraft on the ground for departure. Soon after we reported a 5 mi final. The tower controller said not in sight, cleared to land, runway 25. Again, the tower controller appeared to be working both ground and tower frequency. We landed and were instructed to taxi to the ramp. There must have been some confusion during our approach to ege airport as we were later informed that we landed without clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CE550 FLC LANDS AT EGE, CO, ON 2 SEPARATE FLTS ON THE SAME DAY. EACH TIME THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD BEEN CLRED FOR LNDG. EACH TIME THE CTLR STATES THAT THEY HAD LANDED WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: AT APPROX 15 MI FROM EGE ARPT, ON OUR 1ST FLT TO EGE, ZDV CLRED MY ACFT FOR A VISUAL APCH. ON INITIAL CONTACT WITH EGE ARPT TWR WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO RPT A 5 MI FINAL. THE PF THE ACFT POINTED OUT 5 MI ON THE DME READOUT. THE PNF RPTED A 5 MI FINAL. THE EGE TWR CLRED OUR ACFT TO LAND ON RWY 25. THE TWR CTLR AT EGE ARPT WAS BUSY WORKING 2 DIFFERENT FREQS, TWR FREQ AND GND FREQ. DURING OUR VISUAL APCH THE TWR CTLR WAS ISSUING IFR CLRNCS ON GND FREQ, WHILE WORKING AND LISTENING TO THE TWR FREQ. THIS IS WHERE THE CONFUSION TOOK PLACE AND, HE LATER INFORMED OUR ACFT WE WERE NOT CLRED TO LAND. ON OUR 2ND EVENING FLT TO EGE ARPT, ZDV, AT APPROX 15 MI, CLRED US FOR A VISUAL APCH. ON INITIAL CONTACT, EGE ARPT TWR TOLD US TO CONTINUE TOWARDS THE ARPT. AT THE SAME TIME AN ACFT WAS WAITING TO DEPART ON AN IFR FLT PLAN. WE CANCELED OUR IFR FLT PLAN SO THE EGE TWR CTLR COULD RELEASE THE ACFT ON THE GND FOR DEP. THE TWR CTLR RELEASED THE ACFT ON THE GND FOR DEP. SOON AFTER WE RPTED A 5 MI FINAL. THE TWR CTLR SAID NOT IN SIGHT, CLRED TO LAND, RWY 25. AGAIN, THE TWR CTLR APPEARED TO BE WORKING BOTH GND AND TWR FREQ. WE LANDED AND WERE INSTRUCTED TO TAXI TO THE RAMP. THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME CONFUSION DURING OUR APCH TO EGE ARPT AS WE WERE LATER INFORMED THAT WE LANDED WITHOUT CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.