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Attributes | |
ACN | 412202 |
Time | |
Date | 199808 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tys |
State Reference | TN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tys |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Sail Plane |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 13 controller radar : 13 |
ASRS Report | 412202 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
At approximately XA00 local time, I was working radar west approach/departure control at tys. There was known glider activity at the dkx airport located 10 mi northeast of tys. This airport (dkx) is directly on the final for runway 23R&left at tys. I had an aircraft X flight (a carj) on a 140 degree heading 10 mi north of the airport on base leg. I called traffic 12 O'clock, 4 mi, altitude unknown. Aircraft X advised traffic in sight, it's a glider at our altitude and we are turning. Evasive action by the pilot was needed to avoid a collision. None of the gliders have xponders. By the book, the gliders are legal because they are outside of the class C airspace. This is not the first time this has happened. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated the glider activity is very heavy on wkends and holidays. They are not equipped with radios or xponders and pretty much operate at 5000 ft and below. For the most part, they conduct their operations just outside of the class C airspace. Reporter said there are incidents just about every wkend involving gliders and traffic inbound to tys. As much as possible, controllers try to stay clear of the area when vectoring aircraft. Union representative has been to the glider airport to talk to pilots but not much has come out of the discussions. Asked the reporter if the pilot of the regional jet, mentioned in his report, had filed an near midair collision. The reporter said the pilot was talked out of filing an near midair collision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER FLT INBOUND TO TYS TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID A GLIDER OPERATING NEAR THE EDGE OF CLASS C AIRSPACE ON FINAL APCH.
Narrative: AT APPROX XA00 LCL TIME, I WAS WORKING RADAR W APCH/DEP CTL AT TYS. THERE WAS KNOWN GLIDER ACTIVITY AT THE DKX ARPT LOCATED 10 MI NE OF TYS. THIS ARPT (DKX) IS DIRECTLY ON THE FINAL FOR RWY 23R&L AT TYS. I HAD AN ACFT X FLT (A CARJ) ON A 140 DEG HDG 10 MI N OF THE ARPT ON BASE LEG. I CALLED TFC 12 O'CLOCK, 4 MI, ALT UNKNOWN. ACFT X ADVISED TFC IN SIGHT, IT'S A GLIDER AT OUR ALT AND WE ARE TURNING. EVASIVE ACTION BY THE PLT WAS NEEDED TO AVOID A COLLISION. NONE OF THE GLIDERS HAVE XPONDERS. BY THE BOOK, THE GLIDERS ARE LEGAL BECAUSE THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CLASS C AIRSPACE. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THE GLIDER ACTIVITY IS VERY HVY ON WKENDS AND HOLIDAYS. THEY ARE NOT EQUIPPED WITH RADIOS OR XPONDERS AND PRETTY MUCH OPERATE AT 5000 FT AND BELOW. FOR THE MOST PART, THEY CONDUCT THEIR OPS JUST OUTSIDE OF THE CLASS C AIRSPACE. RPTR SAID THERE ARE INCIDENTS JUST ABOUT EVERY WKEND INVOLVING GLIDERS AND TFC INBOUND TO TYS. AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, CTLRS TRY TO STAY CLR OF THE AREA WHEN VECTORING ACFT. UNION REPRESENTATIVE HAS BEEN TO THE GLIDER ARPT TO TALK TO PLTS BUT NOT MUCH HAS COME OUT OF THE DISCUSSIONS. ASKED THE RPTR IF THE PLT OF THE REGIONAL JET, MENTIONED IN HIS RPT, HAD FILED AN NMAC. THE RPTR SAID THE PLT WAS TALKED OUT OF FILING AN NMAC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.