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Attributes | |
ACN | 412745 |
Time | |
Date | 199808 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : hto airport : isp |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent other other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : n90 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 412745 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During climb out and leveloff at 8000 ft from isp, we received a TA on TCASII, immediately followed by an RA. Fly away guidance commanded a 4000-6000 FPM descent rates on evsi, which required a climb reversal with 20 degrees nose down pitch and idle thrust to comply. Initial investigation indicated RA was caused by a skydiving aircraft descending from altitude after drop. Thankfully other aircraft was equipped with mode C transponder so our TCASII could compute a resolution. Because of haze and steep deck angles, intruding aircraft was not spotted visually. Probably out of view above windshield frame. First officer's reaction time was good in selecting autoplt off and pushing hard over, but because we still had climb energy, descent was slightly delayed, requiring captain to chop thrust from climb to idle as first officer was pushing with both hands and electric trim. Idle thrust also limited negative G loading estimated at 0 because coffee did not spill.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CLBING CL65RJ ALMOST HIT A DSNDING ACFT THAT WAS INVOLVED IN PARACHUTE JUMPING ACTIVITY. ATC DID NOT CALL THE TFC BUT TCASII DID.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT AND LEVELOFF AT 8000 FT FROM ISP, WE RECEIVED A TA ON TCASII, IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY AN RA. FLY AWAY GUIDANCE COMMANDED A 4000-6000 FPM DSCNT RATES ON EVSI, WHICH REQUIRED A CLB REVERSAL WITH 20 DEGS NOSE DOWN PITCH AND IDLE THRUST TO COMPLY. INITIAL INVESTIGATION INDICATED RA WAS CAUSED BY A SKYDIVING ACFT DSNDING FROM ALT AFTER DROP. THANKFULLY OTHER ACFT WAS EQUIPPED WITH MODE C XPONDER SO OUR TCASII COULD COMPUTE A RESOLUTION. BECAUSE OF HAZE AND STEEP DECK ANGLES, INTRUDING ACFT WAS NOT SPOTTED VISUALLY. PROBABLY OUT OF VIEW ABOVE WINDSHIELD FRAME. FO'S REACTION TIME WAS GOOD IN SELECTING AUTOPLT OFF AND PUSHING HARD OVER, BUT BECAUSE WE STILL HAD CLB ENERGY, DSCNT WAS SLIGHTLY DELAYED, REQUIRING CAPT TO CHOP THRUST FROM CLB TO IDLE AS FO WAS PUSHING WITH BOTH HANDS AND ELECTRIC TRIM. IDLE THRUST ALSO LIMITED NEGATIVE G LOADING ESTIMATED AT 0 BECAUSE COFFEE DID NOT SPILL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.