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Attributes | |
ACN | 414249 |
Time | |
Date | 199809 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fxe |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Robinson R22 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 450 flight time type : 420 |
ASRS Report | 414249 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 75 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was on a routine training in an R22 helicopter with a high time airplane pilot captain. While conducting normal traffic patterns in the practice area at and below 500 ft AGL, a fellow helicopter instructor warned me of a low flying fixed wing in the area appearing to operate hazardously. After a while the company helicopter departed and I repositioned to his location. While on a takeoff run, I suddenly spotted the same aircraft mentioned previously headed straight for us. He appeared to be descending into our climb. I took the controls and engaged in evasive maneuvers. The plane still appeared on a collision course. So to prevent collision, I entered autorotation as a quick descent tactic and could hear the airplane's engine due to our proximity. I immediately attempted communication through frequencys 123.025, 123.45, 123.30 to alert the fixed wing. Only response was from another airplane who also observed the C152's operations. The airplane (C152) continued to fly within dangerous proximity to our pattern between 400 ft and below. We finally departed the area in fear of our safety and observed his subsequent departure toward fxe. I finally got his identify number over tower 120.9 and learned that it was FBO's. I made a landing on their ramp, approached pilot. He knew why I was there and jokingly said we got a little close. I learned that he was an examiner giving a commercial chkride. I wanted to make him aware of our ongoing helicopter operations in that area so he could keep an eye out. His lack of concern warranted me to call the school later and again make them extra aware that helicopters share the area and to pay attention to our possible presence.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN A ROBINSON HELI R22, H1P, AND A C152 BOTH CONDUCTING TRAINING MANEUVERS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF INSTRUCTORS AT 400 FT AGL IN AN OPEN UNCTLED AIRSPACE AREA. THE RPTR IN THE R22 HELI TOOK EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID THE C152 COMING RIGHT AT HIM.
Narrative: I WAS ON A ROUTINE TRAINING IN AN R22 HELI WITH A HIGH TIME AIRPLANE PLT CAPT. WHILE CONDUCTING NORMAL TFC PATTERNS IN THE PRACTICE AREA AT AND BELOW 500 FT AGL, A FELLOW HELI INSTRUCTOR WARNED ME OF A LOW FLYING FIXED WING IN THE AREA APPEARING TO OPERATE HAZARDOUSLY. AFTER A WHILE THE COMPANY HELI DEPARTED AND I REPOSITIONED TO HIS LOCATION. WHILE ON A TKOF RUN, I SUDDENLY SPOTTED THE SAME ACFT MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY HEADED STRAIGHT FOR US. HE APPEARED TO BE DSNDING INTO OUR CLB. I TOOK THE CTLS AND ENGAGED IN EVASIVE MANEUVERS. THE PLANE STILL APPEARED ON A COLLISION COURSE. SO TO PREVENT COLLISION, I ENTERED AUTOROTATION AS A QUICK DSCNT TACTIC AND COULD HEAR THE AIRPLANE'S ENG DUE TO OUR PROX. I IMMEDIATELY ATTEMPTED COM THROUGH FREQS 123.025, 123.45, 123.30 TO ALERT THE FIXED WING. ONLY RESPONSE WAS FROM ANOTHER AIRPLANE WHO ALSO OBSERVED THE C152'S OPS. THE AIRPLANE (C152) CONTINUED TO FLY WITHIN DANGEROUS PROX TO OUR PATTERN BTWN 400 FT AND BELOW. WE FINALLY DEPARTED THE AREA IN FEAR OF OUR SAFETY AND OBSERVED HIS SUBSEQUENT DEP TOWARD FXE. I FINALLY GOT HIS IDENT NUMBER OVER TWR 120.9 AND LEARNED THAT IT WAS FBO'S. I MADE A LNDG ON THEIR RAMP, APCHED PLT. HE KNEW WHY I WAS THERE AND JOKINGLY SAID WE GOT A LITTLE CLOSE. I LEARNED THAT HE WAS AN EXAMINER GIVING A COMMERCIAL CHKRIDE. I WANTED TO MAKE HIM AWARE OF OUR ONGOING HELI OPS IN THAT AREA SO HE COULD KEEP AN EYE OUT. HIS LACK OF CONCERN WARRANTED ME TO CALL THE SCHOOL LATER AND AGAIN MAKE THEM EXTRA AWARE THAT HELIS SHARE THE AREA AND TO PAY ATTN TO OUR POSSIBLE PRESENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.