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An air carrier PIC complaint regarding the non inclusion of ground transportation time in the flight crew work scheduling for period of rest requirement.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 415190 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199809 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lpb |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-83 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 415190 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
As a reserve pilot, I was called out to take a trip that deadheaded from stl to sjc and had a rest at sfo and then flew from sfo to stl. The trip as printed did not show the limo time from sjc to sfo which would have reduced the rest time by 1 hour. I called the company and told them that I did not think that I was legal to fly this trip from sfo to stl until I had far required rest. They assured me that I was legal for the trip. I do not think that I got legal rest when the limo time is subtracted from the rest time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR PIC COMPLAINT REGARDING THE NON INCLUSION OF GND TRANSPORTATION TIME IN THE FLC WORK SCHEDULING FOR PERIOD OF REST REQUIREMENT.
Narrative: AS A RESERVE PLT, I WAS CALLED OUT TO TAKE A TRIP THAT DEADHEADED FROM STL TO SJC AND HAD A REST AT SFO AND THEN FLEW FROM SFO TO STL. THE TRIP AS PRINTED DID NOT SHOW THE LIMO TIME FROM SJC TO SFO WHICH WOULD HAVE REDUCED THE REST TIME BY 1 HR. I CALLED THE COMPANY AND TOLD THEM THAT I DID NOT THINK THAT I WAS LEGAL TO FLY THIS TRIP FROM SFO TO STL UNTIL I HAD FAR REQUIRED REST. THEY ASSURED ME THAT I WAS LEGAL FOR THE TRIP. I DO NOT THINK THAT I GOT LEGAL REST WHEN THE LIMO TIME IS SUBTRACTED FROM THE REST TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.