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A departure B747-400 changes over to departure controller at 80 ft AGL after takeoff from runway 25R at lax, ca. Crew has discussion with tower supervisor later.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 415210 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199809 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 80 agl bound upper : 80 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : lax tower : chd |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B747-400 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 1900 |
| ASRS Report | 415210 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On takeoff on flight from lax to hong kong, the flying first officer switched radio frequencys from the lax tower to departure control immediately after takeoff, and without first getting permission from the tower. As we climbed through about 3000 ft, departure control asked that we call the lax tower supervisor. We did, whereupon the matter was discussed. To the best of my knowledge, nothing further came of this.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEP B747-400 CHANGES OVER TO DEP CTLR AT 80 FT AGL AFTER TKOF FROM RWY 25R AT LAX, CA. CREW HAS DISCUSSION WITH TWR SUPVR LATER.
Narrative: ON TKOF ON FLT FROM LAX TO HONG KONG, THE FLYING FO SWITCHED RADIO FREQS FROM THE LAX TWR TO DEP CTL IMMEDIATELY AFTER TKOF, AND WITHOUT FIRST GETTING PERMISSION FROM THE TWR. AS WE CLBED THROUGH ABOUT 3000 FT, DEP CTL ASKED THAT WE CALL THE LAX TWR SUPVR. WE DID, WHEREUPON THE MATTER WAS DISCUSSED. TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, NOTHING FURTHER CAME OF THIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.