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ATCT controller is working runway 31R with an MD80 on final and 3 helicopters between the runways waiting to cross runway 31R. Controller a instructs controller B to cross the helicopters without delay.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 416518 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199810 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : jfk airport : jfk |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Flight Phase | landing other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Helicopter |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 10000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The MD80 was on approximately 1 1/2 - 2 mi final for runway 31R, and the 3 helicopters were south of runway 31R (and north of runway 31L). The helicopters needed to land on a taxiway north of runway 31R. I was working local control on runway 31R and I told the other local controller who was working the helicopters about the MD80 and to cross runway 31R without delay in order to beat the MD80. The helicopters were told about the MD80 and the MD80 about the helicopters. The helicopters were slow in crossing, and they were over the departure end of runway 31R when the MD80 was short final. I did not want to send the MD80 around, because I felt that it would have created a much more dangerous situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATCT CTLR IS WORKING RWY 31R WITH AN MD80 ON FINAL AND 3 HELIS BTWN THE RWYS WAITING TO CROSS RWY 31R. CTLR A INSTRUCTS CTLR B TO CROSS THE HELIS WITHOUT DELAY.
Narrative: THE MD80 WAS ON APPROX 1 1/2 - 2 MI FINAL FOR RWY 31R, AND THE 3 HELIS WERE S OF RWY 31R (AND N OF RWY 31L). THE HELIS NEEDED TO LAND ON A TXWY N OF RWY 31R. I WAS WORKING LCL CTL ON RWY 31R AND I TOLD THE OTHER LCL CTLR WHO WAS WORKING THE HELIS ABOUT THE MD80 AND TO CROSS RWY 31R WITHOUT DELAY IN ORDER TO BEAT THE MD80. THE HELIS WERE TOLD ABOUT THE MD80 AND THE MD80 ABOUT THE HELIS. THE HELIS WERE SLOW IN XING, AND THEY WERE OVER THE DEP END OF RWY 31R WHEN THE MD80 WAS SHORT FINAL. I DID NOT WANT TO SEND THE MD80 AROUND, BECAUSE I FELT THAT IT WOULD HAVE CREATED A MUCH MORE DANGEROUS SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.