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Attributes | |
ACN | 416810 |
Time | |
Date | 199810 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dtw airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 416810 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 417037 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Tower cleared us to position and hold. Tower canceled clearance, aircraft 5- 6 ft beyond hold line (VFR). Tower notified of aircraft position. Tower cleared 2 aircraft to land -- aircraft #1 commuter propeller, aircraft #2 B757. Tower notified both aircraft of B727 past hold line, cleared them to land. Supplemental information from acn 417037: approaching the #1 position for takeoff, the captain instructor called the tower stating we were ready for takeoff. Aircraft was on very short final. Tower keyed microphone, said '...(long pause as aircraft passed in front of us) taxi into position and hold.' somewhere in the conversations with the tower, a different voice was talking to us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEVELOPMENTAL ATCT LCL CTLR STOPS AN ACR B727 6 FT OVER THE RWY HOLD LINE WHEN HE CANCELED THE TKOF CLRNC ON ACCOUNT OF LNDG TFC. 2 ACFT ARE ALLOWED TO LAND WITH REDUCED CLRNC FROM THE HOLDING ACFT.
Narrative: TWR CLRED US TO POS AND HOLD. TWR CANCELED CLRNC, ACFT 5- 6 FT BEYOND HOLD LINE (VFR). TWR NOTIFIED OF ACFT POS. TWR CLRED 2 ACFT TO LAND -- ACFT #1 COMMUTER PROP, ACFT #2 B757. TWR NOTIFIED BOTH ACFT OF B727 PAST HOLD LINE, CLRED THEM TO LAND. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 417037: APCHING THE #1 POS FOR TKOF, THE CAPT INSTRUCTOR CALLED THE TWR STATING WE WERE READY FOR TKOF. ACFT WAS ON VERY SHORT FINAL. TWR KEYED MIKE, SAID '...(LONG PAUSE AS ACFT PASSED IN FRONT OF US) TAXI INTO POS AND HOLD.' SOMEWHERE IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TWR, A DIFFERENT VOICE WAS TALKING TO US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.