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Attributes | |
ACN | 417040 |
Time | |
Date | 199810 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dqo |
State Reference | DE |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 26000 msl bound upper : 27000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zny |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 20100 flight time type : 3800 |
ASRS Report | 417040 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Well into minks 1 STAR into lga, prior to kerno intersection, ZDC asked us to start descent to cross kerno intersection at FL260 and to pick up the airspeed as soon as possible as we descended to 320 KIAS. This was explained by controller that he needed the increased speed 'real soon' so therefore the early descent. Aircraft was taken out of VNAV and used vertical speed and mach speed control, so as to pick up speed, during the time just prior to handoff to controller (nyc). Several exchanges occurred and some confusion existed over other items. Upon contacting ZNY we realized we were at FL270 at kerno and throttled back and descended to FL260 within 1.5 mi of kerno. Nothing was said by center as he issued lower at that point.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN ACR MLG FAILED TO DSND IN SUFFICIENT TIME TO MAKE ALT XING RESTR DUE DISTR OF REPROGRAMMING THE FMC FOR THE XING RESTR AND AT AN INCREASED AIRSPD. THERE WAS NO COMMENT FROM CTR CTLR.
Narrative: WELL INTO MINKS 1 STAR INTO LGA, PRIOR TO KERNO INTXN, ZDC ASKED US TO START DSCNT TO CROSS KERNO INTXN AT FL260 AND TO PICK UP THE AIRSPD ASAP AS WE DSNDED TO 320 KIAS. THIS WAS EXPLAINED BY CTLR THAT HE NEEDED THE INCREASED SPD 'REAL SOON' SO THEREFORE THE EARLY DSCNT. ACFT WAS TAKEN OUT OF VNAV AND USED VERT SPD AND MACH SPD CTL, SO AS TO PICK UP SPD, DURING THE TIME JUST PRIOR TO HDOF TO CTLR (NYC). SEVERAL EXCHANGES OCCURRED AND SOME CONFUSION EXISTED OVER OTHER ITEMS. UPON CONTACTING ZNY WE REALIZED WE WERE AT FL270 AT KERNO AND THROTTLED BACK AND DSNDED TO FL260 WITHIN 1.5 MI OF KERNO. NOTHING WAS SAID BY CTR AS HE ISSUED LOWER AT THAT POINT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.