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Instructor pilot on training flight with student in a C172 observed a north american T6 100 ft off to one side climbing away from them. The other pilot was subsequently overheard on the radio saying for the cessna to pull their head out of the cockpit.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 419768 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199811 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cxo airport : cxo |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : txkf |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | Texan T6 Harvard |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 442 flight time type : 348 |
| ASRS Report | 419768 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 75 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was helping my student set up for a maneuver. As I was scanning I noticed that I saw a north american T6 about 100 ft horizontal and 75 ft vertical. By that time, the aircraft was already climbing and high. So my student and myself continued with the maneuver. About 1 min 30 seconds later, he came over the radio and said cessna, pull your head out. I said there are 2 of us up here and the conversation was over. I think if he had had his lights on I would have seen the aircraft a lot sooner.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR PLT ON TRAINING FLT WITH STUDENT IN A C172 OBSERVED A NORTH AMERICAN T6 100 FT OFF TO ONE SIDE CLBING AWAY FROM THEM. THE OTHER PLT WAS SUBSEQUENTLY OVERHEARD ON THE RADIO SAYING FOR THE CESSNA TO PULL THEIR HEAD OUT OF THE COCKPIT.
Narrative: I WAS HELPING MY STUDENT SET UP FOR A MANEUVER. AS I WAS SCANNING I NOTICED THAT I SAW A NORTH AMERICAN T6 ABOUT 100 FT HORIZ AND 75 FT VERT. BY THAT TIME, THE ACFT WAS ALREADY CLBING AND HIGH. SO MY STUDENT AND MYSELF CONTINUED WITH THE MANEUVER. ABOUT 1 MIN 30 SECONDS LATER, HE CAME OVER THE RADIO AND SAID CESSNA, PULL YOUR HEAD OUT. I SAID THERE ARE 2 OF US UP HERE AND THE CONVERSATION WAS OVER. I THINK IF HE HAD HAD HIS LIGHTS ON I WOULD HAVE SEEN THE ACFT A LOT SOONER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.