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Attributes | |
ACN | 420857 |
Time | |
Date | 199811 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pvd airport : pvd |
State Reference | RI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pvd tower : sfo |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 420857 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On climb out from pvd while level at 8000 ft, we received a TA from ATC. We saw the saab 340 at 10000 ft and reported traffic in sight. ATC then gave us a climb clearance to 10000 ft to visually remain clear of traffic. The traffic was given a descent to 9000 ft. We began a climb but quickly realized the traffic was on a direct intercept course with our aircraft. I shallowed out the climb but soon received a TA followed by an RA to descend from our TCASII. I followed the TCASII instructions and descended back to 8000 ft. While taking this action, the aircraft accelerated to 280 KIAS, which I immediately corrected back to 250 KTS. We instructed ATC that we had descended back to 8000 ft. ATC said 'fine' and to climb to 10000 ft when able. Traffic cleared and we proceeded to climb and the rest of trip was normal. I believe that VFR climbs at night to clear traffic is not a good idea because angles of intercept with your aircraft are much harder to judge. Relative velocity is also hard to judge. My faith in TCASII grows with every incident like this. TCASII is a great system.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 RECEIVED TCASII RA WITH AN SF340 NEAR PVD.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT FROM PVD WHILE LEVEL AT 8000 FT, WE RECEIVED A TA FROM ATC. WE SAW THE SAAB 340 AT 10000 FT AND RPTED TFC IN SIGHT. ATC THEN GAVE US A CLB CLRNC TO 10000 FT TO VISUALLY REMAIN CLR OF TFC. THE TFC WAS GIVEN A DSCNT TO 9000 FT. WE BEGAN A CLB BUT QUICKLY REALIZED THE TFC WAS ON A DIRECT INTERCEPT COURSE WITH OUR ACFT. I SHALLOWED OUT THE CLB BUT SOON RECEIVED A TA FOLLOWED BY AN RA TO DSND FROM OUR TCASII. I FOLLOWED THE TCASII INSTRUCTIONS AND DSNDED BACK TO 8000 FT. WHILE TAKING THIS ACTION, THE ACFT ACCELERATED TO 280 KIAS, WHICH I IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED BACK TO 250 KTS. WE INSTRUCTED ATC THAT WE HAD DSNDED BACK TO 8000 FT. ATC SAID 'FINE' AND TO CLB TO 10000 FT WHEN ABLE. TFC CLRED AND WE PROCEEDED TO CLB AND THE REST OF TRIP WAS NORMAL. I BELIEVE THAT VFR CLBS AT NIGHT TO CLR TFC IS NOT A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE ANGLES OF INTERCEPT WITH YOUR ACFT ARE MUCH HARDER TO JUDGE. RELATIVE VELOCITY IS ALSO HARD TO JUDGE. MY FAITH IN TCASII GROWS WITH EVERY INCIDENT LIKE THIS. TCASII IS A GREAT SYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.