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Attributes | |
ACN | 421893 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 800 agl bound upper : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : jax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Route In Use | approach : straight in |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-8 63 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 1350 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 421893 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were on the ILS runway 18R approach to cvg, then cleared for visual runway 18R and switched to cvg tower at approximately 5 NM final. We were cleared to land runway 18R. Held 170 KIAS to the FAF (approximately 4 NM from runway 18R threshold). Upon arriving at a 2 1/2 NM final, cvg tower cleared an air carrier Y turbojet for takeoff ahead of us that had been holding short of runway 18R and advised him of traffic (us) air carrier X on 3 mi final. We were actually 2 - 2 1/2 NM out at that point. Tower did not clear them for immediate, or estimate our distance from the runway properly. About 10-15 seconds later, cvg tower asked us to slow to final approach speed for the departing DC8. We advised them that we already had slowed to final speed (approximately 140 KIAS) and it was going to be tight. I continued the approach until approximately 1/2 - 3/4 NM final and determined that the spacing with the departing traffic was definitely inadequate for us to land safely. I executed a go around with a west turnout.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A CANADAIR CL65 REGIONAL JET HAD TO MAKE A GAR BECAUSE OF TWR CLRING A DC8 PRIOR TO THEIR LNDG WHEN THEY WERE ONLY 2-3 MI OUT, AND THE DC8 DID NOT EXPEDITE DEP. RPTR COMPLAINS ABOUT TWR CTLR TFC HANDLING.
Narrative: WE WERE ON THE ILS RWY 18R APCH TO CVG, THEN CLRED FOR VISUAL RWY 18R AND SWITCHED TO CVG TWR AT APPROX 5 NM FINAL. WE WERE CLRED TO LAND RWY 18R. HELD 170 KIAS TO THE FAF (APPROX 4 NM FROM RWY 18R THRESHOLD). UPON ARRIVING AT A 2 1/2 NM FINAL, CVG TWR CLRED AN ACR Y TURBOJET FOR TKOF AHEAD OF US THAT HAD BEEN HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 18R AND ADVISED HIM OF TFC (US) ACR X ON 3 MI FINAL. WE WERE ACTUALLY 2 - 2 1/2 NM OUT AT THAT POINT. TWR DID NOT CLR THEM FOR IMMEDIATE, OR ESTIMATE OUR DISTANCE FROM THE RWY PROPERLY. ABOUT 10-15 SECONDS LATER, CVG TWR ASKED US TO SLOW TO FINAL APCH SPD FOR THE DEPARTING DC8. WE ADVISED THEM THAT WE ALREADY HAD SLOWED TO FINAL SPD (APPROX 140 KIAS) AND IT WAS GOING TO BE TIGHT. I CONTINUED THE APCH UNTIL APPROX 1/2 - 3/4 NM FINAL AND DETERMINED THAT THE SPACING WITH THE DEPARTING TFC WAS DEFINITELY INADEQUATE FOR US TO LAND SAFELY. I EXECUTED A GAR WITH A W TURNOUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.