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Attributes | |
ACN | 421988 |
Time | |
Date | 199811 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mdw |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 710 flight time type : 129 |
ASRS Report | 421988 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Upon landing at mdw on runway 22R, I was instructed to turn left at runway 31C, hold short runway 22L. As I taxied to runway 22L, I was slowing down to stop at a point I believed would be the proper distance from the active runway. As I slowed, the tower controller said 'stop,' at which point I hit the brakes and stopped. At this point I saw an air carrier Y flight to my left, who had just begun his takeoff roll, slowed to a stop and exited the runway (runway 22L). There was no runway incursion, but I believe the tower controller expected me to hold short at a point behind me. I was going to hold short at an imaginary line that exists at taxiway/runway intxns. This misunderstanding of where I was going to hold short and where tower thought I was going to hold short caused her to take notice and tell me to stop. The air carrier Y flight also aborted their takeoff roll, which had just begun, and return to start again. I believe to prevent this in the future, that there should be some identifying marking or sign to show where the hold short point is on intersecting runways. The occurrence on a large airport, at night, leaves few clues to where operations like these should take place. Perhaps the controller could mention where to hold short (ie, 'hold short midway between runway 22R and runway 22L'), to avoid misunderstandings -- especially those pilots who may be unfamiliar with the airport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A C182 FAILED TO HOLD SUFFICIENTLY SHORT OF ACTIVE RWY CAUSING TWR CTLR TO ABORT A B737 TKOF ROLL AND COMMAND THE RPTR TO STOP. THE RPTR BELIEVED THAT HE STOPPED SUFFICIENTLY CLR. HOWEVER, THE CTLR COULD NOT RELY ON HIM STOPPING SINCE HE WAS ALREADY AT THE EDGE OF THE INTERSECTING RWYS.
Narrative: UPON LNDG AT MDW ON RWY 22R, I WAS INSTRUCTED TO TURN L AT RWY 31C, HOLD SHORT RWY 22L. AS I TAXIED TO RWY 22L, I WAS SLOWING DOWN TO STOP AT A POINT I BELIEVED WOULD BE THE PROPER DISTANCE FROM THE ACTIVE RWY. AS I SLOWED, THE TWR CTLR SAID 'STOP,' AT WHICH POINT I HIT THE BRAKES AND STOPPED. AT THIS POINT I SAW AN ACR Y FLT TO MY L, WHO HAD JUST BEGUN HIS TKOF ROLL, SLOWED TO A STOP AND EXITED THE RWY (RWY 22L). THERE WAS NO RWY INCURSION, BUT I BELIEVE THE TWR CTLR EXPECTED ME TO HOLD SHORT AT A POINT BEHIND ME. I WAS GOING TO HOLD SHORT AT AN IMAGINARY LINE THAT EXISTS AT TXWY/RWY INTXNS. THIS MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHERE I WAS GOING TO HOLD SHORT AND WHERE TWR THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO HOLD SHORT CAUSED HER TO TAKE NOTICE AND TELL ME TO STOP. THE ACR Y FLT ALSO ABORTED THEIR TKOF ROLL, WHICH HAD JUST BEGUN, AND RETURN TO START AGAIN. I BELIEVE TO PREVENT THIS IN THE FUTURE, THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME IDENTIFYING MARKING OR SIGN TO SHOW WHERE THE HOLD SHORT POINT IS ON INTERSECTING RWYS. THE OCCURRENCE ON A LARGE ARPT, AT NIGHT, LEAVES FEW CLUES TO WHERE OPS LIKE THESE SHOULD TAKE PLACE. PERHAPS THE CTLR COULD MENTION WHERE TO HOLD SHORT (IE, 'HOLD SHORT MIDWAY BTWN RWY 22R AND RWY 22L'), TO AVOID MISUNDERSTANDINGS -- ESPECIALLY THOSE PLTS WHO MAY BE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE ARPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.