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Attributes | |
ACN | 422000 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 239 flight time total : 3312 flight time type : 58 |
ASRS Report | 422000 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified atc |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | Other |
Narrative:
As I was being vectored for the visual approach to runway 12L at stl, the approach controller instructed me to maintain 170 KTS and join the runway 12L lda localizer. As I was doing this, the controller pointed out traffic at my 3 O'clock position. What the controller did not realize is that it was not possible for me to see that traffic to my right due to the reduced visibility of the setting sun. I did let the controller know I was looking, but also having trouble seeing to the right because of the sun. It was at this time that the controller began acting in an unprofessional manner and creating a serious distraction. The controller began shouting 'look out your right window.' as I tried explaining that I simply could not see the traffic in the sun, he snapped back with 'that's it, you're going back around,' and it was at this point he revectored me back around. After being revectored for the approach with I believe a different controller, the situation was then fine. I do believe that I may have drifted slightly right of course on the lda localizer the first time, and this may have been why the controller revectored me. Unfortunately the controller seemed unwilling to provide any assistance other than shouting. After landing and analyzing the situation, it became obvious that with the runways arranged in the manner that they are, and the distraction that the first controller created, it could be possible to have landed on runway 13 as opposed to runway 12L due to the lda localizer. I felt this could have been avoided had the controller kept his professionalism.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATX PLT VECTORED TO FINAL FOR VISUAL SIDE-BY APCH WITH ANOTHER ACFT. ATX PLT CAN NOT RPT TFC IN SIGHT DUE TO SUN. STL APCH CTLR TAKES THE ATX PLT BACK OUT FOR RESEQUENCING. DIFFERENT CTLR RE-ESTABLISHES SEQUENCE AND ATX PLT LANDS WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.
Narrative: AS I WAS BEING VECTORED FOR THE VISUAL APCH TO RWY 12L AT STL, THE APCH CTLR INSTRUCTED ME TO MAINTAIN 170 KTS AND JOIN THE RWY 12L LDA LOC. AS I WAS DOING THIS, THE CTLR POINTED OUT TFC AT MY 3 O'CLOCK POS. WHAT THE CTLR DID NOT REALIZE IS THAT IT WAS NOT POSSIBLE FOR ME TO SEE THAT TFC TO MY R DUE TO THE REDUCED VISIBILITY OF THE SETTING SUN. I DID LET THE CTLR KNOW I WAS LOOKING, BUT ALSO HAVING TROUBLE SEEING TO THE R BECAUSE OF THE SUN. IT WAS AT THIS TIME THAT THE CTLR BEGAN ACTING IN AN UNPROFESSIONAL MANNER AND CREATING A SERIOUS DISTR. THE CTLR BEGAN SHOUTING 'LOOK OUT YOUR R WINDOW.' AS I TRIED EXPLAINING THAT I SIMPLY COULD NOT SEE THE TFC IN THE SUN, HE SNAPPED BACK WITH 'THAT'S IT, YOU'RE GOING BACK AROUND,' AND IT WAS AT THIS POINT HE REVECTORED ME BACK AROUND. AFTER BEING REVECTORED FOR THE APCH WITH I BELIEVE A DIFFERENT CTLR, THE SIT WAS THEN FINE. I DO BELIEVE THAT I MAY HAVE DRIFTED SLIGHTLY R OF COURSE ON THE LDA LOC THE FIRST TIME, AND THIS MAY HAVE BEEN WHY THE CTLR REVECTORED ME. UNFORTUNATELY THE CTLR SEEMED UNWILLING TO PROVIDE ANY ASSISTANCE OTHER THAN SHOUTING. AFTER LNDG AND ANALYZING THE SIT, IT BECAME OBVIOUS THAT WITH THE RWYS ARRANGED IN THE MANNER THAT THEY ARE, AND THE DISTR THAT THE FIRST CTLR CREATED, IT COULD BE POSSIBLE TO HAVE LANDED ON RWY 13 AS OPPOSED TO RWY 12L DUE TO THE LDA LOC. I FELT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED HAD THE CTLR KEPT HIS PROFESSIONALISM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.