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Attributes | |
ACN | 423020 |
Time | |
Date | 199812 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sli airport : lgb |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Duchess 76 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna 210 Centurion / Turbo Centurion 210C, 210D |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 880 flight time type : 37 |
ASRS Report | 423020 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : passenger |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was given a TA on the centurion at, I think, 4 O'clock or 5 O'clock, ascending and flying in my direction. My copilot (passenger) and I spotted the aircraft. The aircraft was slowly gaining on us and approaching us from below. My copilot was performing radio tasks and notified socal that we had the traffic in sight. The centurion was also notified by ATC, but did not have us in sight. If I turned in either direction, I would've lost sight of the centurion, so I held my course, keeping him in sight, thinking that I could change course as necessary when we got closer. I think this is the important factor in the encounter. I did not want to lose sight of him! If I turned right, I would've lost sight of him below my wing. If I turned left, he would be behind me. As he got closer, I could see that he would pass behind me, so I continued my course and altitude. He evidently did not see me until I passed over and in front of him. He was startled by my proximity and so reported it to ATC. ATC reported that I had him in sight. I called in and indicated my regret for being as close as I appeared to him. With hindsight, now, I feel that I should've asked ATC to change his course or hold his altitude. This would've kept us further apart. Alternatively, I could've changed course when we first spotted him, but at that time I did not realize that we would be merging as closely as we did. I'm not sure why he did not see us earlier, even though he had high wings, we were in front of him. My copilot recommended I make this report, and I feel that it is a good idea. However, since it's been over a week since the encounter occurred, I'm not sure if I have the detailed data on the previous page correct. For example, it might have happened in the vicinity of sli rather than lgb, and I might have been flying at a higher altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC NEAR A MAJOR VORTAC UNDER CLASS B AIRSPACE BTWN A BEECH DUCHESS 76 IN LEVEL FLT AND A C210 CLBING TOWARD THE BE76. DEP CTLR GAVE A TA TO THE RPTR IN THE B376 OF THE C210 CLBING TOWARD HIM.
Narrative: I WAS GIVEN A TA ON THE CENTURION AT, I THINK, 4 O'CLOCK OR 5 O'CLOCK, ASCENDING AND FLYING IN MY DIRECTION. MY COPLT (PAX) AND I SPOTTED THE ACFT. THE ACFT WAS SLOWLY GAINING ON US AND APCHING US FROM BELOW. MY COPLT WAS PERFORMING RADIO TASKS AND NOTIFIED SOCAL THAT WE HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. THE CENTURION WAS ALSO NOTIFIED BY ATC, BUT DID NOT HAVE US IN SIGHT. IF I TURNED IN EITHER DIRECTION, I WOULD'VE LOST SIGHT OF THE CENTURION, SO I HELD MY COURSE, KEEPING HIM IN SIGHT, THINKING THAT I COULD CHANGE COURSE AS NECESSARY WHEN WE GOT CLOSER. I THINK THIS IS THE IMPORTANT FACTOR IN THE ENCOUNTER. I DID NOT WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF HIM! IF I TURNED R, I WOULD'VE LOST SIGHT OF HIM BELOW MY WING. IF I TURNED L, HE WOULD BE BEHIND ME. AS HE GOT CLOSER, I COULD SEE THAT HE WOULD PASS BEHIND ME, SO I CONTINUED MY COURSE AND ALT. HE EVIDENTLY DID NOT SEE ME UNTIL I PASSED OVER AND IN FRONT OF HIM. HE WAS STARTLED BY MY PROX AND SO RPTED IT TO ATC. ATC RPTED THAT I HAD HIM IN SIGHT. I CALLED IN AND INDICATED MY REGRET FOR BEING AS CLOSE AS I APPEARED TO HIM. WITH HINDSIGHT, NOW, I FEEL THAT I SHOULD'VE ASKED ATC TO CHANGE HIS COURSE OR HOLD HIS ALT. THIS WOULD'VE KEPT US FURTHER APART. ALTERNATIVELY, I COULD'VE CHANGED COURSE WHEN WE FIRST SPOTTED HIM, BUT AT THAT TIME I DID NOT REALIZE THAT WE WOULD BE MERGING AS CLOSELY AS WE DID. I'M NOT SURE WHY HE DID NOT SEE US EARLIER, EVEN THOUGH HE HAD HIGH WINGS, WE WERE IN FRONT OF HIM. MY COPLT RECOMMENDED I MAKE THIS RPT, AND I FEEL THAT IT IS A GOOD IDEA. HOWEVER, SINCE IT'S BEEN OVER A WK SINCE THE ENCOUNTER OCCURRED, I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE THE DETAILED DATA ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE CORRECT. FOR EXAMPLE, IT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE VICINITY OF SLI RATHER THAN LGB, AND I MIGHT HAVE BEEN FLYING AT A HIGHER ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.