PA38 pilot flying traffic watch at mke was accused by another pilot in vicinity of flying out of a c...

Attributes
ACN	423534
Time
Date	199812
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : mke airport : mke
State Reference	WI
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : mke tracon : bna
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other cruise other cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 1200 flight time type : 300
ASRS Report	423534
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

The following is not an admission. When flying in the milwaukee, wi, area, a pilot from another aircraft said that I had busted out of a cloud in front of him, when in fact I was flying VFR maintaining all separation. I am unsure about how to fill out the above information because the incident was a while ago and these records are not available to me at this time. So please call to advise in filling it out. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated he was being accused of flying in clouds. He was operating a traffic watch aircraft and had a radio reporter on board. He said there was apparently an FAA inspector in the area at the time and that he requested the number of the traffic watch aircraft. The reporter talked to an ATC supervisor and was informed he could not talk about the incident because it was under investigation but did say the radar tapes were being checked. The reporter said the clouds in the area at the time were scattered to broken and were cumulus type clouds. He claims that he was operating 500 ft below the clouds. The reporter also said he was expecting to receive a letter about the incident.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PA38 PLT FLYING TFC WATCH AT MKE WAS ACCUSED BY ANOTHER PLT IN VICINITY OF FLYING OUT OF A CLOUD.

Narrative: THE FOLLOWING IS NOT AN ADMISSION. WHEN FLYING IN THE MILWAUKEE, WI, AREA, A PLT FROM ANOTHER ACFT SAID THAT I HAD BUSTED OUT OF A CLOUD IN FRONT OF HIM, WHEN IN FACT I WAS FLYING VFR MAINTAINING ALL SEPARATION. I AM UNSURE ABOUT HOW TO FILL OUT THE ABOVE INFO BECAUSE THE INCIDENT WAS A WHILE AGO AND THESE RECORDS ARE NOT AVAILABLE TO ME AT THIS TIME. SO PLEASE CALL TO ADVISE IN FILLING IT OUT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED HE WAS BEING ACCUSED OF FLYING IN CLOUDS. HE WAS OPERATING A TFC WATCH ACFT AND HAD A RADIO RPTR ON BOARD. HE SAID THERE WAS APPARENTLY AN FAA INSPECTOR IN THE AREA AT THE TIME AND THAT HE REQUESTED THE NUMBER OF THE TFC WATCH ACFT. THE RPTR TALKED TO AN ATC SUPVR AND WAS INFORMED HE COULD NOT TALK ABOUT THE INCIDENT BECAUSE IT WAS UNDER INVESTIGATION BUT DID SAY THE RADAR TAPES WERE BEING CHKED. THE RPTR SAID THE CLOUDS IN THE AREA AT THE TIME WERE SCATTERED TO BROKEN AND WERE CUMULUS TYPE CLOUDS. HE CLAIMS THAT HE WAS OPERATING 500 FT BELOW THE CLOUDS. THE RPTR ALSO SAID HE WAS EXPECTING TO RECEIVE A LETTER ABOUT THE INCIDENT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

PA38 pilot flying traffic watch at mke was accused by another pilot in vicinity of flying out of a cloud.