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An air carrier DH8B flight crew were delayed due to an ARTCC radar problem and they forgot to update their release when they departed over 1 hour late.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 425610 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199901 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sea |
| State Reference | WA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 900 |
| ASRS Report | 425610 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While calling ground control for taxi clearance out of seattle, ground control told us to call gate hold. Gate hold informed us there was a ground stop in effect for sea. He said ZSE radar was inoperative and it would be 25 mins possibly before departures standby on the frequency -- he would let us know. As we were planning on deplaning the passenger sea gate hold called us and asked if we would be ready to go right away. We said we could. We were the only aircraft that they let out. Our destination was clm (only 65 NM from sea). We started engines, taxied, departed. En route I discovered we had been on the ground for more than 1 hour without getting an amendment for our release.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR DH8B FLC WERE DELAYED DUE TO AN ARTCC RADAR PROB AND THEY FORGOT TO UPDATE THEIR RELEASE WHEN THEY DEPARTED OVER 1 HR LATE.
Narrative: WHILE CALLING GND CTL FOR TAXI CLRNC OUT OF SEATTLE, GND CTL TOLD US TO CALL GATE HOLD. GATE HOLD INFORMED US THERE WAS A GND STOP IN EFFECT FOR SEA. HE SAID ZSE RADAR WAS INOP AND IT WOULD BE 25 MINS POSSIBLY BEFORE DEPS STANDBY ON THE FREQ -- HE WOULD LET US KNOW. AS WE WERE PLANNING ON DEPLANING THE PAX SEA GATE HOLD CALLED US AND ASKED IF WE WOULD BE READY TO GO RIGHT AWAY. WE SAID WE COULD. WE WERE THE ONLY ACFT THAT THEY LET OUT. OUR DEST WAS CLM (ONLY 65 NM FROM SEA). WE STARTED ENGS, TAXIED, DEPARTED. ENRTE I DISCOVERED WE HAD BEEN ON THE GND FOR MORE THAN 1 HR WITHOUT GETTING AN AMENDMENT FOR OUR RELEASE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.