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Attributes | |
ACN | 426232 |
Time | |
Date | 199901 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sdf |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-8 70 |
Route In Use | arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 426232 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
WX in sdf better than 5000 ft ceiling, visibility better than 5 mi, wind 190 degrees at 7 KTS, landing runways 17L&right. We entered the sdf area at maize intersection. We entered upwind, heading 190 degrees on the west side of the airport for landing on runway 17R. 2 mi south of the field, we turned for a crosswind, then a right downwind, heading 340 degrees on the west side of the field. We were at 3000 ft and the wind was 260 degrees at 52 KTS. We continued downwind till approximately 12-14 mi from the field. Approach gave a turn to 080 degrees. We had not yet passed 60 degrees of heading when approach instructed we turn to 110 degrees, intercept the localizer, cleared for the approach. They then instructed us to turn to 160 degrees. We had a 50-52 KT tailwind and went immediately through the localizer. The first officer then said we were approaching the centerline of runway 17L. We were configuring and turning. I disconnected the autoplt, banked to almost 45 degrees and added power to increase our closure back to the runway 17 centerline. During this maneuver, approach advised a heading of 200 degrees to intercept. We acquired the localizer and after stabilizing advised the tower of the winds. This is the second time this has happened to me. Since we were under ATC directions, I wasn't planning on 'going for the runway' and disregarding heading instructions. Surely, ATC realized there were significant winds. If they asked any aircraft, they could give the wind readout. If they knew, they could compensate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: APCH CTLR NEGLECTS TO ALLOW FOR STRONG WIND CONDITION AND DC8 FLC STRUGGLE TO CONDUCT STABLE APCH.
Narrative: WX IN SDF BETTER THAN 5000 FT CEILING, VISIBILITY BETTER THAN 5 MI, WIND 190 DEGS AT 7 KTS, LNDG RWYS 17L&R. WE ENTERED THE SDF AREA AT MAIZE INTXN. WE ENTERED UPWIND, HDG 190 DEGS ON THE W SIDE OF THE ARPT FOR LNDG ON RWY 17R. 2 MI S OF THE FIELD, WE TURNED FOR A XWIND, THEN A R DOWNWIND, HDG 340 DEGS ON THE W SIDE OF THE FIELD. WE WERE AT 3000 FT AND THE WIND WAS 260 DEGS AT 52 KTS. WE CONTINUED DOWNWIND TILL APPROX 12-14 MI FROM THE FIELD. APCH GAVE A TURN TO 080 DEGS. WE HAD NOT YET PASSED 60 DEGS OF HDG WHEN APCH INSTRUCTED WE TURN TO 110 DEGS, INTERCEPT THE LOC, CLRED FOR THE APCH. THEY THEN INSTRUCTED US TO TURN TO 160 DEGS. WE HAD A 50-52 KT TAILWIND AND WENT IMMEDIATELY THROUGH THE LOC. THE FO THEN SAID WE WERE APCHING THE CTRLINE OF RWY 17L. WE WERE CONFIGURING AND TURNING. I DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT, BANKED TO ALMOST 45 DEGS AND ADDED PWR TO INCREASE OUR CLOSURE BACK TO THE RWY 17 CTRLINE. DURING THIS MANEUVER, APCH ADVISED A HDG OF 200 DEGS TO INTERCEPT. WE ACQUIRED THE LOC AND AFTER STABILIZING ADVISED THE TWR OF THE WINDS. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS HAS HAPPENED TO ME. SINCE WE WERE UNDER ATC DIRECTIONS, I WASN'T PLANNING ON 'GOING FOR THE RWY' AND DISREGARDING HDG INSTRUCTIONS. SURELY, ATC REALIZED THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT WINDS. IF THEY ASKED ANY ACFT, THEY COULD GIVE THE WIND READOUT. IF THEY KNEW, THEY COULD COMPENSATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.