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Attributes | |
ACN | 426577 |
Time | |
Date | 199901 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : vhp |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 19000 msl bound upper : 19300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v53 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 47 flight time total : 10050 flight time type : 1110 |
ASRS Report | 426577 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We departed keye, radar vectors to V53 to house intersection 47 mi south. Flying down V53, climbing to FL190, we reviewed our routing of V53 to house intersection direct nabb VOR and watched a C130 pass overhead from left to right at FL200. We were leveling at FL190 as we approached house. Passing house I reminded the PF that we were to proceed to nabb. In the left turn toward nabb we started to climb. At +200 ft I reminded the PF to check his altitude. He initiated a slow recovery and the aircraft continued to +300 ft before returning to FL190. After we were level back at FL190 center inquired about any previous altitude changes and suggested we phone ZID after we land. During the telephone conversation I discussed the altitude variation and was informed we were involved in an aircraft deviation report for being less than 1000 ft below an aircraft within a 5 mi radius. (The C130 had passed overhead in the opposite direction prior to house intersection.) the PF, an employee of the company and a prospective copilot, had not flown this aircraft for awhile. I think he got a little behind the airplane and then trying to keep the flight smooth did not recover from the climb as fast as he could have or should have. Although his correction was very slow and I worried about him arresting his climb, at the time I did not think the situation had progressed to the point that I had to intercede more than verbally. I may have to rethink that decision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CPR BE20 FLC CLBED ABOVE THEIR ASSIGNED ALT WHILE PASSING UNDER A MIL C130. AN ARTCC RADAR CTLR DISCUSSED THIS INCIDENT WITH THE CPR FLC.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED KEYE, RADAR VECTORS TO V53 TO HOUSE INTXN 47 MI S. FLYING DOWN V53, CLBING TO FL190, WE REVIEWED OUR ROUTING OF V53 TO HOUSE INTXN DIRECT NABB VOR AND WATCHED A C130 PASS OVERHEAD FROM L TO R AT FL200. WE WERE LEVELING AT FL190 AS WE APCHED HOUSE. PASSING HOUSE I REMINDED THE PF THAT WE WERE TO PROCEED TO NABB. IN THE L TURN TOWARD NABB WE STARTED TO CLB. AT +200 FT I REMINDED THE PF TO CHK HIS ALT. HE INITIATED A SLOW RECOVERY AND THE ACFT CONTINUED TO +300 FT BEFORE RETURNING TO FL190. AFTER WE WERE LEVEL BACK AT FL190 CTR INQUIRED ABOUT ANY PREVIOUS ALT CHANGES AND SUGGESTED WE PHONE ZID AFTER WE LAND. DURING THE TELEPHONE CONVERSATION I DISCUSSED THE ALT VARIATION AND WAS INFORMED WE WERE INVOLVED IN AN ACFT DEV RPT FOR BEING LESS THAN 1000 FT BELOW AN ACFT WITHIN A 5 MI RADIUS. (THE C130 HAD PASSED OVERHEAD IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION PRIOR TO HOUSE INTXN.) THE PF, AN EMPLOYEE OF THE COMPANY AND A PROSPECTIVE COPLT, HAD NOT FLOWN THIS ACFT FOR AWHILE. I THINK HE GOT A LITTLE BEHIND THE AIRPLANE AND THEN TRYING TO KEEP THE FLT SMOOTH DID NOT RECOVER FROM THE CLB AS FAST AS HE COULD HAVE OR SHOULD HAVE. ALTHOUGH HIS CORRECTION WAS VERY SLOW AND I WORRIED ABOUT HIM ARRESTING HIS CLB, AT THE TIME I DID NOT THINK THE SIT HAD PROGRESSED TO THE POINT THAT I HAD TO INTERCEDE MORE THAN VERBALLY. I MAY HAVE TO RETHINK THAT DECISION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.