Pilot of an small aircraft sel had to extend downwind for a T6 in an uncontrolled airport traffic pa...

Attributes
ACN	427925
Time
Date	199902
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : ftg airport : ftr
State Reference	CO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 6400 msl bound upper : 6400
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : personal
Flight Phase	other
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Flight Phase	descent : approach other
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	427925
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

While in the traffic pattern for ftg runway 8, I broadcast my position as 'downwind entering the pattern on a 45 degrees.' then reported 'downwind abeam the numbers for runway 8.' an AT6 reported downwind. When I looked for him, I saw him behind, but well inside my position. He didn't indicate that he saw me. At that time a C210 reported he was going into position and hold. I needed to turn base leg at this time to avoid an overshoot into den airspace. If I turned then, I would have cut off the AT6 who was now lower and slower and well inside my position as well as not leaving adequate room for the C210 to depart. I had no choice but to extend my downwind. When I 'waged my wings' the AT6 spotted me and did a 360 degree turn to give me room. I then turned base and final and landed. This pattern put me very close to den airspace. There isn't enough room for a crowded pattern to runway 8 at ftg. We need a way to be in contact with a controling agency that can insure traffic separation with den airspace. When runway 8 is in use at ftg a controller needs to control traffic allowing use of that corner of den airspace, or at least someone that can authority/authorized temporary incursions. This will happen again and again until this line of communication is opened.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PLT OF AN SMA SEL HAD TO EXTEND DOWNWIND FOR A T6 IN AN UNCTLED ARPT TFC PATTERN WHICH ALMOST CAUSED HIM TO PENETRATE CLASS B ADJACENT AIRSPACE. THE T6 DID A 360 DEG TURN TO ALLOW RPTR TO TURN BASE AND LAND.

Narrative: WHILE IN THE TFC PATTERN FOR FTG RWY 8, I BROADCAST MY POS AS 'DOWNWIND ENTERING THE PATTERN ON A 45 DEGS.' THEN RPTED 'DOWNWIND ABEAM THE NUMBERS FOR RWY 8.' AN AT6 RPTED DOWNWIND. WHEN I LOOKED FOR HIM, I SAW HIM BEHIND, BUT WELL INSIDE MY POS. HE DIDN'T INDICATE THAT HE SAW ME. AT THAT TIME A C210 RPTED HE WAS GOING INTO POS AND HOLD. I NEEDED TO TURN BASE LEG AT THIS TIME TO AVOID AN OVERSHOOT INTO DEN AIRSPACE. IF I TURNED THEN, I WOULD HAVE CUT OFF THE AT6 WHO WAS NOW LOWER AND SLOWER AND WELL INSIDE MY POS AS WELL AS NOT LEAVING ADEQUATE ROOM FOR THE C210 TO DEPART. I HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO EXTEND MY DOWNWIND. WHEN I 'WAGED MY WINGS' THE AT6 SPOTTED ME AND DID A 360 DEG TURN TO GIVE ME ROOM. I THEN TURNED BASE AND FINAL AND LANDED. THIS PATTERN PUT ME VERY CLOSE TO DEN AIRSPACE. THERE ISN'T ENOUGH ROOM FOR A CROWDED PATTERN TO RWY 8 AT FTG. WE NEED A WAY TO BE IN CONTACT WITH A CTLING AGENCY THAT CAN INSURE TFC SEPARATION WITH DEN AIRSPACE. WHEN RWY 8 IS IN USE AT FTG A CTLR NEEDS TO CTL TFC ALLOWING USE OF THAT CORNER OF DEN AIRSPACE, OR AT LEAST SOMEONE THAT CAN AUTH TEMPORARY INCURSIONS. THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN AND AGAIN UNTIL THIS LINE OF COM IS OPENED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Pilot of an small aircraft sel had to extend downwind for a T6 in an uncontrolled airport traffic pattern which almost caused him to penetrate class B adjacent airspace. The T6 did a 360 degree turn to allow reporter to turn base and land.