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Attributes | |
ACN | 428230 |
Time | |
Date | 199902 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 428230 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Everyone knew this flight was passenger limited due to weight. When agent delivered weight and balance, I noticed there was no tolerance to add or subtract passenger. Also noticed they used 5 child weights. Flight attendant confirmed total passenger count but said only 3 children were on board (child is defined as 2-12 yrs old, 85 pounds). Asked agent if he knew implications of wrong performance data and to get new weight and balance. Other agents came and removed 3 non revenues. Believe this is a training issue. With inadequate guidance agents 'do what it takes' to get weight limited flts out 'on time.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727 GATE AGENT BOARDED PAX SO AS TO PUT THE AIRPLANE ABOVE THE MAX GROSS WT.
Narrative: EVERYONE KNEW THIS FLT WAS PAX LIMITED DUE TO WT. WHEN AGENT DELIVERED WT AND BAL, I NOTICED THERE WAS NO TOLERANCE TO ADD OR SUBTRACT PAX. ALSO NOTICED THEY USED 5 CHILD WTS. FLT ATTENDANT CONFIRMED TOTAL PAX COUNT BUT SAID ONLY 3 CHILDREN WERE ON BOARD (CHILD IS DEFINED AS 2-12 YRS OLD, 85 LBS). ASKED AGENT IF HE KNEW IMPLICATIONS OF WRONG PERFORMANCE DATA AND TO GET NEW WT AND BAL. OTHER AGENTS CAME AND REMOVED 3 NON REVENUES. BELIEVE THIS IS A TRAINING ISSUE. WITH INADEQUATE GUIDANCE AGENTS 'DO WHAT IT TAKES' TO GET WT LIMITED FLTS OUT 'ON TIME.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.