A C172 pilot deviates from the published traffic pattern altitude at apf when the cloud cover makes it difficult to maintain legal distances from the clouds.

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Attributes
ACN	428968
Time
Date	199902
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : apf.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl single value : 800
Environment
Weather Elements	other
Light	Daylight
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	observation : passenger
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 3 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 100
ASRS Report	428968
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	inflight encounter other non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Weather Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

I was in the right seat of C172. I have more time than the PIC. We were going into apf. They were calling the WX 1600 ft scattered clouds, 4 mi visibility. We had to drop down to 800 ft to keep cloud clearance. The controller got upset after he cleared us in because we could not maintain the VFR pattern altitude. On the way out, we asked for an SVFR but he said the field is VFR not IFR (it was hard to maintain the legal clrncs from the clouds).

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A C172 PLT DEVIATES FROM THE PUBLISHED TFC PATTERN ALT AT APF WHEN THE CLOUD COVER MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN LEGAL DISTANCES FROM THE CLOUDS.

Narrative: I WAS IN THE R SEAT OF C172. I HAVE MORE TIME THAN THE PIC. WE WERE GOING INTO APF. THEY WERE CALLING THE WX 1600 FT SCATTERED CLOUDS, 4 MI VISIBILITY. WE HAD TO DROP DOWN TO 800 FT TO KEEP CLOUD CLRNC. THE CTLR GOT UPSET AFTER HE CLRED US IN BECAUSE WE COULD NOT MAINTAIN THE VFR PATTERN ALT. ON THE WAY OUT, WE ASKED FOR AN SVFR BUT HE SAID THE FIELD IS VFR NOT IFR (IT WAS HARD TO MAINTAIN THE LEGAL CLRNCS FROM THE CLOUDS).

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.