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Attributes | |
ACN | 599748 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : saf.airport |
State Reference | NM |
Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | IAI1124/1124A/Westwind |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : ziase |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 190 |
ASRS Report | 599748 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing saf on the ZAISE2 departure the SID called for an intercept of the saf 255 degree radial to join the departure. This turn was missed and the captain continued on runway heading of 200 degrees and a climb to 10000 ft MSL. After passing the required turn ZAB advised us of the missed turn and issued a turn to 250 degrees and climb to 12000 ft for terrain. Remainder of flight was uneventful. Events that I feel contributed to this situation stem from the captain (PF) not understanding the ATC clearance and SID which he received from saf tower and subsequently briefed me in error. The initial clearance included the departure SID, but to join V263 to abq. The captain briefed me on the SID, but he said the clearance was to join V263 south of zaise intersection to abq probably due in part that on the SID the 255 degree radial from saf to zaise intersection is not labeled as V263. Regardless, the SID does state to intercept the 255 degree radial from saf, and the captain did not reference the low altitude chart to verify the makeup of V263. I did question this clearance in the takeoff briefing due to my concerns of flying in mountainous terrain. The captain then stated to me that it was radar vectors after the runway heading to join the V263 south of zaise intersection. This was apparently wrong and his full understanding of the clearance was flawed from the beginning, but was relayed to me in error as well. This event I think stems from complacency of a 'sea level' pilot not fully understanding the need to be error free in flying in mountainous terrain. The captain thought he was right in his understanding of the clearance and I had a gut feeling that it was wrong, but let my trust in the captain and his understanding of the clearance win. A contributing factor is the labeling on the SID itself. V263 and V62 are labeled but the 255 degree radial should be labeled as well as V263 for reference, but is not. Also, the controller issuing the clearance should reference only the SID in the IFR clearance and avoid the use of the V263 intercept. I also should trust my instincts when any clearance is in doubt, and when in doubt ask and verify from ATC what is exactly expected of us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IAI 1124 FLT CREW DEVIATES FROM PUBLISHED DEP RTE ON ZIASE TWO DEP FROM SAF.
Narrative: DEPARTING SAF ON THE ZAISE2 DEP THE SID CALLED FOR AN INTERCEPT OF THE SAF 255 DEG RADIAL TO JOIN THE DEP. THIS TURN WAS MISSED AND THE CAPT CONTINUED ON RWY HEADING OF 200 DEGS AND A CLB TO 10000 FT MSL. AFTER PASSING THE REQUIRED TURN ZAB ADVISED US OF THE MISSED TURN AND ISSUED A TURN TO 250 DEGS AND CLB TO 12000 FT FOR TERRAIN. REMAINDER OF FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. EVENTS THAT I FEEL CONTRIBUTED TO THIS SIT STEM FROM THE CAPT (PF) NOT UNDERSTANDING THE ATC CLRNC AND SID WHICH HE RECEIVED FROM SAF TWR AND SUBSEQUENTLY BRIEFED ME IN ERROR. THE INITIAL CLRNC INCLUDED THE DEP SID, BUT TO JOIN V263 TO ABQ. THE CAPT BRIEFED ME ON THE SID, BUT HE SAID THE CLRNC WAS TO JOIN V263 S OF ZAISE INTXN TO ABQ PROBABLY DUE IN PART THAT ON THE SID THE 255 DEG RADIAL FROM SAF TO ZAISE INTXN IS NOT LABELED AS V263. REGARDLESS, THE SID DOES STATE TO INTERCEPT THE 255 DEG RADIAL FROM SAF, AND THE CAPT DID NOT REF THE LOW ALT CHART TO VERIFY THE MAKEUP OF V263. I DID QUESTION THIS CLRNC IN THE TKOF BRIEFING DUE TO MY CONCERNS OF FLYING IN MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN. THE CAPT THEN STATED TO ME THAT IT WAS RADAR VECTORS AFTER THE RWY HEADING TO JOIN THE V263 S OF ZAISE INTXN. THIS WAS APPARENTLY WRONG AND HIS FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE CLRNC WAS FLAWED FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT WAS RELAYED TO ME IN ERROR AS WELL. THIS EVENT I THINK STEMS FROM COMPLACENCY OF A 'SEA LEVEL' PLT NOT FULLY UNDERSTANDING THE NEED TO BE ERROR FREE IN FLYING IN MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN. THE CAPT THOUGHT HE WAS RIGHT IN HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE CLRNC AND I HAD A GUT FEELING THAT IT WAS WRONG, BUT LET MY TRUST IN THE CAPT AND HIS UNDERSTANDING OF THE CLRNC WIN. A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IS THE LABELING ON THE SID ITSELF. V263 AND V62 ARE LABELED BUT THE 255 DEG RADIAL SHOULD BE LABELED AS WELL AS V263 FOR REF, BUT IS NOT. ALSO, THE CTLR ISSUING THE CLRNC SHOULD REF ONLY THE SID IN THE IFR CLRNC AND AVOID THE USE OF THE V263 INTERCEPT. I ALSO SHOULD TRUST MY INSTINCTS WHEN ANY CLRNC IS IN DOUBT, AND WHEN IN DOUBT ASK AND VERIFY FROM ATC WHAT IS EXACTLY EXPECTED OF US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.