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Attributes | |
ACN | 429302 |
Time | |
Date | 199902 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : bhm.ils |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bhm.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 23 other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bhm.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Baron 55/Cochise |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 18870 flight time type : 17500 |
ASRS Report | 429302 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We intercepted ILS runway 23 localizer at 12 mi with a descent clearance from 5000 ft to 3000 ft. At 3950 ft, approach directed us to stop at 4000 ft. I stopped the descent and returned to 4000 ft. A supervisor came on the frequency and directed a turn to 180 degrees and requested an expedited descent to 2300 ft. I initiated the turn, then received a TCASII RA to climb reference traffic showing '00' altitude difference within the 2 mi circle of the TCASII display. Due to the conflicting directions from the controller and the TCASII, I responded aggressively to the TCASII RA. We were then resequenced for the approach and landed. The TCASII had been showing the conflicting target but we never received a TCASII TA prior to the TCASII RA. The initial controller never pointed out the conflicting traffic to us but had been spending a lot of time and xmissions directing him. With the onset of the TCASII RA and the sense of urgency in the supervisor's voice, I felt a need to respond more aggressively than was comfortable for the passenger and cabin crew. I am still surprised at how quickly the situation seemed to deteriorate given the information available and attention being paid by myself and the first officer.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 INITIATES EVASIVE MANEUVER DUE TO TCASII RA FOR NON ISSUED TFC WHILE BEING VECTORED TO THE BHM ILS RWY 23 FINAL APCH COURSE.
Narrative: WE INTERCEPTED ILS RWY 23 LOC AT 12 MI WITH A DSCNT CLRNC FROM 5000 FT TO 3000 FT. AT 3950 FT, APCH DIRECTED US TO STOP AT 4000 FT. I STOPPED THE DSCNT AND RETURNED TO 4000 FT. A SUPVR CAME ON THE FREQ AND DIRECTED A TURN TO 180 DEGS AND REQUESTED AN EXPEDITED DSCNT TO 2300 FT. I INITIATED THE TURN, THEN RECEIVED A TCASII RA TO CLB REF TFC SHOWING '00' ALT DIFFERENCE WITHIN THE 2 MI CIRCLE OF THE TCASII DISPLAY. DUE TO THE CONFLICTING DIRECTIONS FROM THE CTLR AND THE TCASII, I RESPONDED AGGRESSIVELY TO THE TCASII RA. WE WERE THEN RESEQUENCED FOR THE APCH AND LANDED. THE TCASII HAD BEEN SHOWING THE CONFLICTING TARGET BUT WE NEVER RECEIVED A TCASII TA PRIOR TO THE TCASII RA. THE INITIAL CTLR NEVER POINTED OUT THE CONFLICTING TFC TO US BUT HAD BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AND XMISSIONS DIRECTING HIM. WITH THE ONSET OF THE TCASII RA AND THE SENSE OF URGENCY IN THE SUPVR'S VOICE, I FELT A NEED TO RESPOND MORE AGGRESSIVELY THAN WAS COMFORTABLE FOR THE PAX AND CABIN CREW. I AM STILL SURPRISED AT HOW QUICKLY THE SIT SEEMED TO DETERIORATE GIVEN THE INFO AVAILABLE AND ATTN BEING PAID BY MYSELF AND THE FO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.