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Attributes | |
ACN | 429453 |
Time | |
Date | 199902 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 24l other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival star : mitts 1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 240 |
ASRS Report | 429453 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 18500 flight time type : 12400 |
ASRS Report | 429451 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Narrative:
While flying a scheduled flight from phx to lax, I noticed that ATC was making numerous modifications to the clearance, ie, changes in altitude, headings, airspeed, arrs, and runways. While initially on a pdz 2 to lax, we were modified to a mitts 1. We were also advised to maintain 250 KTS on approach as long as possible, but at least to the marker of runway 24L. We were advised of company traffic that would be landing on runway 24R. We were told to maintain maximum forward speed, but not to pass company on final approach. I picked up the traffic late and failed to notice the gear coming down on the company aircraft. Therefore my speed reduction was late and an excessive closure rate resulted. The approach ended with a normal landing on runway 24L and an uneventful taxi to the gate. I believe that the numerous changes required of us by ATC during the approach, coupled with the late recognition of the company aircraft on approach for runway 24R, led to a situation where our 2 aircraft achieved a proximity that may have caused concern by some of the passenger on either aircraft. I do not feel there was anything unsafe that occurred during the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF A B737-300 ON APCH TO LAX HAS HDG AND ALT CHANGES THEN IS INFORMED THAT A COMPANY ACFT WILL BE ON THE PARALLEL RWY AND THEY MUST MAINTAIN SPD BUT NOT PASS THE OTHER ACFT. THEY MAKE EFFORTS, BUT DO COME UP ADJACENT TO THE OTHER ACFT.
Narrative: WHILE FLYING A SCHEDULED FLT FROM PHX TO LAX, I NOTICED THAT ATC WAS MAKING NUMEROUS MODIFICATIONS TO THE CLRNC, IE, CHANGES IN ALT, HDGS, AIRSPD, ARRS, AND RWYS. WHILE INITIALLY ON A PDZ 2 TO LAX, WE WERE MODIFIED TO A MITTS 1. WE WERE ALSO ADVISED TO MAINTAIN 250 KTS ON APCH AS LONG AS POSSIBLE, BUT AT LEAST TO THE MARKER OF RWY 24L. WE WERE ADVISED OF COMPANY TFC THAT WOULD BE LNDG ON RWY 24R. WE WERE TOLD TO MAINTAIN MAX FORWARD SPD, BUT NOT TO PASS COMPANY ON FINAL APCH. I PICKED UP THE TFC LATE AND FAILED TO NOTICE THE GEAR COMING DOWN ON THE COMPANY ACFT. THEREFORE MY SPD REDUCTION WAS LATE AND AN EXCESSIVE CLOSURE RATE RESULTED. THE APCH ENDED WITH A NORMAL LNDG ON RWY 24L AND AN UNEVENTFUL TAXI TO THE GATE. I BELIEVE THAT THE NUMEROUS CHANGES REQUIRED OF US BY ATC DURING THE APCH, COUPLED WITH THE LATE RECOGNITION OF THE COMPANY ACFT ON APCH FOR RWY 24R, LED TO A SIT WHERE OUR 2 ACFT ACHIEVED A PROX THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED CONCERN BY SOME OF THE PAX ON EITHER ACFT. I DO NOT FEEL THERE WAS ANYTHING UNSAFE THAT OCCURRED DURING THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.