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Attributes | |
ACN | 429881 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : mxe.vor |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 24000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
ASRS Report | 429881 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
So was dealing with cabin climb, one pack problem and assisting captain determining radio fix for J6 intercept. First officer was flying, had punched in direct flirt on a 280 degree heading and had his chart out. Captain was communicating with ATC/frequency change and identing wrong NAVAID for intercept. Did I mention altimeter setting was 29.40? Captain showed past J6 and told first officer of need to turn left to reintercept. Talked first officer into it and he started turn. Another frequency change and now level FL240, ATC advised they had us at FL240 and about 12 mi east of J6. They gave us a heading of 275 degrees to reintercept. I told them we would reset the altimeters, frequency change. ATC gave us direct hvq which was on our flight plan and in the GPS. Back flying right and found problem that flight plan was direct mxe out 278 intercept J6. ATC gave us direct flirt which we finally heard correctly and entered in GPS. The problem came when intercepting J6 on the amended 280 degree heading. If you look southwest on J6 from flirt, you come to a NAVAID with a box titled armel 113.5 next to it which the captain tuned and properly idented. Problem was, actual NAVAID has proper box over 2 inches away with a 90 degree arrow pointing to it. Too much information in too little space with too many frequency changes with direct to ATC instructions not on the flight plan with a noisy problem aircraft caused everyone (3) to miss the 29.92 setting. Solution: PF fly the aircraft (he may have remembered the SOP to reset altimeters at FL180). Captain, who was distraction with frequency changes and navigation identify, could have better viewed airways on the ground in a less busy environment. Got back in touch with ATC he had problem with. He said no harm, no foul, no report. I am submitting this for obvious elimination of future similar problems by others.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC EXPERIENCED HIGH WORKLOAD ON DEP. THE HIGH WORKLOAD RESULTED IN MISSED CLRNCS, ALTIMETER SETTINGS AND NAV ERRORS.
Narrative: SO WAS DEALING WITH CABIN CLB, ONE PACK PROB AND ASSISTING CAPT DETERMINING RADIO FIX FOR J6 INTERCEPT. FO WAS FLYING, HAD PUNCHED IN DIRECT FLIRT ON A 280 DEG HDG AND HAD HIS CHART OUT. CAPT WAS COMMUNICATING WITH ATC/FREQ CHANGE AND IDENTING WRONG NAVAID FOR INTERCEPT. DID I MENTION ALTIMETER SETTING WAS 29.40? CAPT SHOWED PAST J6 AND TOLD FO OF NEED TO TURN L TO REINTERCEPT. TALKED FO INTO IT AND HE STARTED TURN. ANOTHER FREQ CHANGE AND NOW LEVEL FL240, ATC ADVISED THEY HAD US AT FL240 AND ABOUT 12 MI E OF J6. THEY GAVE US A HDG OF 275 DEGS TO REINTERCEPT. I TOLD THEM WE WOULD RESET THE ALTIMETERS, FREQ CHANGE. ATC GAVE US DIRECT HVQ WHICH WAS ON OUR FLT PLAN AND IN THE GPS. BACK FLYING RIGHT AND FOUND PROB THAT FLT PLAN WAS DIRECT MXE OUT 278 INTERCEPT J6. ATC GAVE US DIRECT FLIRT WHICH WE FINALLY HEARD CORRECTLY AND ENTERED IN GPS. THE PROB CAME WHEN INTERCEPTING J6 ON THE AMENDED 280 DEG HDG. IF YOU LOOK SW ON J6 FROM FLIRT, YOU COME TO A NAVAID WITH A BOX TITLED ARMEL 113.5 NEXT TO IT WHICH THE CAPT TUNED AND PROPERLY IDENTED. PROB WAS, ACTUAL NAVAID HAS PROPER BOX OVER 2 INCHES AWAY WITH A 90 DEG ARROW POINTING TO IT. TOO MUCH INFO IN TOO LITTLE SPACE WITH TOO MANY FREQ CHANGES WITH DIRECT TO ATC INSTRUCTIONS NOT ON THE FLT PLAN WITH A NOISY PROB ACFT CAUSED EVERYONE (3) TO MISS THE 29.92 SETTING. SOLUTION: PF FLY THE ACFT (HE MAY HAVE REMEMBERED THE SOP TO RESET ALTIMETERS AT FL180). CAPT, WHO WAS DISTR WITH FREQ CHANGES AND NAV IDENT, COULD HAVE BETTER VIEWED AIRWAYS ON THE GND IN A LESS BUSY ENVIRONMENT. GOT BACK IN TOUCH WITH ATC HE HAD PROB WITH. HE SAID NO HARM, NO FOUL, NO RPT. I AM SUBMITTING THIS FOR OBVIOUS ELIMINATION OF FUTURE SIMILAR PROBS BY OTHERS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.