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Attributes | |
ACN | 430450 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phx |
State Reference | AZ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 172 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 6281 |
ASRS Report | 430450 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing phx mar/xa/99 aircraft X at XX11 on the st john's 2 (attached) following visually behind an air carrier flight runway 08R. LNAV was engaged which commanded a left turn of approximately 068 degrees to track into pxr. The apparent difference was split between what I thought should be flown and the commanded LNAV track into pxr. Approximately 073 degrees was flown to pxr whereupon phx tower advised me we were not following the st john's 2 departure. The subsequent frequency change to phx departure also advised us we were not following the departure. At no time in the flight was a map shift noticed or LNAV not performed properly. Have any other crews experienced an LNAV commanded left turn using the st john's 2 off runway 8R? Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter suspected the departure radials were wrong. However, in conversing with the reporter, it became known that he was unaware that the LNAV feature would be calculating the ground track from the liftoff point to the pxr NAVAID. Since he had flown straight ahead after liftoff, this placed the computed ground track to his left. When LNAV was activated, it took a big turn to the left to get on course. Reporter was informed that if he would either fly manually to the VOR or use the direct intercept feature of the LNAV no sharp turn would occur. Further, it would be a smooth turn to follow the prescribed departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757-200 DEPARTING PHX, MAKES A SUDDEN L TURN AFTER DEPARTING RWY 8R AND THREATENS TO CROSS THE DEP PATH OF ACFT FROM RWY 8L.
Narrative: DEPARTING PHX MAR/XA/99 ACFT X AT XX11 ON THE ST JOHN'S 2 (ATTACHED) FOLLOWING VISUALLY BEHIND AN ACR FLT RWY 08R. LNAV WAS ENGAGED WHICH COMMANDED A L TURN OF APPROX 068 DEGS TO TRACK INTO PXR. THE APPARENT DIFFERENCE WAS SPLIT BTWN WHAT I THOUGHT SHOULD BE FLOWN AND THE COMMANDED LNAV TRACK INTO PXR. APPROX 073 DEGS WAS FLOWN TO PXR WHEREUPON PHX TWR ADVISED ME WE WERE NOT FOLLOWING THE ST JOHN'S 2 DEP. THE SUBSEQUENT FREQ CHANGE TO PHX DEP ALSO ADVISED US WE WERE NOT FOLLOWING THE DEP. AT NO TIME IN THE FLT WAS A MAP SHIFT NOTICED OR LNAV NOT PERFORMED PROPERLY. HAVE ANY OTHER CREWS EXPERIENCED AN LNAV COMMANDED L TURN USING THE ST JOHN'S 2 OFF RWY 8R? CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR SUSPECTED THE DEP RADIALS WERE WRONG. HOWEVER, IN CONVERSING WITH THE RPTR, IT BECAME KNOWN THAT HE WAS UNAWARE THAT THE LNAV FEATURE WOULD BE CALCULATING THE GND TRACK FROM THE LIFTOFF POINT TO THE PXR NAVAID. SINCE HE HAD FLOWN STRAIGHT AHEAD AFTER LIFTOFF, THIS PLACED THE COMPUTED GND TRACK TO HIS L. WHEN LNAV WAS ACTIVATED, IT TOOK A BIG TURN TO THE L TO GET ON COURSE. RPTR WAS INFORMED THAT IF HE WOULD EITHER FLY MANUALLY TO THE VOR OR USE THE DIRECT INTERCEPT FEATURE OF THE LNAV NO SHARP TURN WOULD OCCUR. FURTHER, IT WOULD BE A SMOOTH TURN TO FOLLOW THE PRESCRIBED DEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.