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A320 flight crew follows assigned taxi instructions but misses runway hold short line, causing E120 on short final to be issued a go around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 430848 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199903 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13500 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 430848 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 10400 flight time type : 6500 |
| ASRS Report | 430850 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed go around other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 25L and exiting north on taxiway P, my aircraft X encroached on the hold line for runway 25R. While rolling out on runway 25L, tower instructed us to pass up the highspd taxiway and continue down to taxiway P before exiting. I exited north on taxiway P, intending to hold short of runway 25R, but didn't realize how little space there actually is between runways on this perpendicular taxiway. Turning onto the taxiway, I mistook the hold line for runway 25R northbound as the hold line for runway 25L sbound and allowed the aircraft to start across that line. At that point, I believed that the aircraft was not fully clear of runway 25L and even commented to the first officer that I was moving forward to get off the runway. Before I realized that it was, in fact, the hold line for runway 25R and became fully stopped, the aircraft had partially crossed the line, however, did not enter runway 25R! Subsequently, lax tower did instruct a commuter aircraft Y on final approach for runway 25R to 'go around.' supplemental information from acn 430850: as we slowed to a walking speed of taxi, I picked up the ground taxi chart and began reviewing the north taxi route to expect. As I glanced up, I saw we were getting close to the runway. At that instant, the tower controller said 'air carrier X, confirm hold short runway 25R.' I responded 'holding short of runway 25R.' we stopped short of the runway about 10-15 ft short of the edge of the runway. The tower controller issued a go around to the landing brasilia on runway 25R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 FLC FOLLOWS ASSIGNED TAXI INSTRUCTIONS BUT MISSES RWY HOLD SHORT LINE, CAUSING E120 ON SHORT FINAL TO BE ISSUED A GAR.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 25L AND EXITING N ON TXWY P, MY ACFT X ENCROACHED ON THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 25R. WHILE ROLLING OUT ON RWY 25L, TWR INSTRUCTED US TO PASS UP THE HIGHSPD TXWY AND CONTINUE DOWN TO TXWY P BEFORE EXITING. I EXITED N ON TXWY P, INTENDING TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 25R, BUT DIDN'T REALIZE HOW LITTLE SPACE THERE ACTUALLY IS BTWN RWYS ON THIS PERPENDICULAR TXWY. TURNING ONTO THE TXWY, I MISTOOK THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 25R NBOUND AS THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 25L SBOUND AND ALLOWED THE ACFT TO START ACROSS THAT LINE. AT THAT POINT, I BELIEVED THAT THE ACFT WAS NOT FULLY CLR OF RWY 25L AND EVEN COMMENTED TO THE FO THAT I WAS MOVING FORWARD TO GET OFF THE RWY. BEFORE I REALIZED THAT IT WAS, IN FACT, THE HOLD LINE FOR RWY 25R AND BECAME FULLY STOPPED, THE ACFT HAD PARTIALLY CROSSED THE LINE, HOWEVER, DID NOT ENTER RWY 25R! SUBSEQUENTLY, LAX TWR DID INSTRUCT A COMMUTER ACFT Y ON FINAL APCH FOR RWY 25R TO 'GO AROUND.' SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 430850: AS WE SLOWED TO A WALKING SPD OF TAXI, I PICKED UP THE GND TAXI CHART AND BEGAN REVIEWING THE N TAXI RTE TO EXPECT. AS I GLANCED UP, I SAW WE WERE GETTING CLOSE TO THE RWY. AT THAT INSTANT, THE TWR CTLR SAID 'ACR X, CONFIRM HOLD SHORT RWY 25R.' I RESPONDED 'HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 25R.' WE STOPPED SHORT OF THE RWY ABOUT 10-15 FT SHORT OF THE EDGE OF THE RWY. THE TWR CTLR ISSUED A GAR TO THE LNDG BRASILIA ON RWY 25R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.