A descending CL65 undershoots its assigned altitude for crossing tigrr intersection on the CINCE3 ar...

Attributes
ACN	430960
Time
Date	199903
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : cvg.vortac
State Reference	OH
Altitude	msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight Daylight
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 5000
ASRS Report	430960
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 3100 flight time type : 1800
ASRS Report	730959
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other
Independent Detector	atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued advisory other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were at FL240. ZID told us to descend now to FL230 and cross tigrr at 11000 ft. The first officer said to set 11000 ft. I did, and I saw him start a descent. At this point and later, we both forgot about the crossing restr. Air traffic area asked if we were going to make tigrr at 11000 ft. We were approximately 8 mi to go at FL210. I answered, 'I don't think so.' we gave a high rate of descent but we missed crossing at 11000 ft. I selected the lower altitude and saw the first officer start his descent. I simply forgot to back him up. Next time I'll use a prompt (dim tubes, etc) to remind us of a restr. I'll also stay focused on what the other fellow is doing. One thing I've started doing the last few yrs is to start my descent for any crossing restr as soon as I get it -- no matter what my rate of descent needs to be. Supplemental information from acn 430959: first officer started a slow descent. We later started to read the descent checklist and forgot about the crossing restr. Center said hurry down. We missed the restr by approximately 2000 ft. Complacency and not flying airplane first was the contributing factor.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A DSNDING CL65 UNDERSHOOTS ITS ASSIGNED ALT FOR XING TIGRR INTXN ON THE CINCE3 ARR FOR CVG, OH.

Narrative: WE WERE AT FL240. ZID TOLD US TO DSND NOW TO FL230 AND CROSS TIGRR AT 11000 FT. THE FO SAID TO SET 11000 FT. I DID, AND I SAW HIM START A DSCNT. AT THIS POINT AND LATER, WE BOTH FORGOT ABOUT THE XING RESTR. ATA ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO MAKE TIGRR AT 11000 FT. WE WERE APPROX 8 MI TO GO AT FL210. I ANSWERED, 'I DON'T THINK SO.' WE GAVE A HIGH RATE OF DSCNT BUT WE MISSED XING AT 11000 FT. I SELECTED THE LOWER ALT AND SAW THE FO START HIS DSCNT. I SIMPLY FORGOT TO BACK HIM UP. NEXT TIME I'LL USE A PROMPT (DIM TUBES, ETC) TO REMIND US OF A RESTR. I'LL ALSO STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT THE OTHER FELLOW IS DOING. ONE THING I'VE STARTED DOING THE LAST FEW YRS IS TO START MY DSCNT FOR ANY XING RESTR AS SOON AS I GET IT -- NO MATTER WHAT MY RATE OF DSCNT NEEDS TO BE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 430959: FO STARTED A SLOW DSCNT. WE LATER STARTED TO READ THE DSCNT CHKLIST AND FORGOT ABOUT THE XING RESTR. CTR SAID HURRY DOWN. WE MISSED THE RESTR BY APPROX 2000 FT. COMPLACENCY AND NOT FLYING AIRPLANE FIRST WAS THE CONTRIBUTING FACTOR.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A descending CL65 undershoots its assigned altitude for crossing tigrr intersection on the CINCE3 arrival for cvg, oh.