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Attributes | |
ACN | 431070 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca.airport |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10 msl bound upper : 16000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc tower : dca.tower tower : cyyc.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial ground : takeoff roll |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors enroute airway : v445.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 431070 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 431069 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe cabin event other non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to original clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In a rush to take off before a landing aircraft, captain accepted clearance to take off without delay before we were ready. As I rushed to finish up delayed start checklist, I started before takeoff checklist. When I got to flight attendants notified and acknowledged, I finally looked back to see what was taking so long to hear from our flight attendants. At this point we were crossing the hold short line and I told the crew, we were not ready. The flight attendant was still 3/4 of the way back working her way forward. I still worked on the checklist knowing the captain was going to take off. 45 degrees to runway line-up, the power started to come up. I again said the flight attendants are not ready, now lined up and power set for takeoff. 10 ft away from her seat, the flight attendant struggled to her seat and got there by about 80 KTS. Again I said, flight attendants not ready! The takeoff was continued uneventfully. Apparently the lead flight attendant was in the back galley checking on problems with a water leak or no water pressure. Not sure why the captain rushed the takeoff versus waiting a couple of mins for a landing aircraft, but we pressed on. Passing through 10000 ft, I mentioned to the captain that the flight attendants were going to be a little bit upset. He didn't seem to understand what happened until I explained it all to him. He then got upset with himself and forgot about a 250 KT restr and flew normal speed at 280 KTS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC STARTED TKOF PRIOR TO FLT ATTENDANT BEING SEATED. FLC EXCEEDED 250 KTS IN CLB.
Narrative: IN A RUSH TO TAKE OFF BEFORE A LNDG ACFT, CAPT ACCEPTED CLRNC TO TAKE OFF WITHOUT DELAY BEFORE WE WERE READY. AS I RUSHED TO FINISH UP DELAYED START CHKLIST, I STARTED BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST. WHEN I GOT TO FLT ATTENDANTS NOTIFIED AND ACKNOWLEDGED, I FINALLY LOOKED BACK TO SEE WHAT WAS TAKING SO LONG TO HEAR FROM OUR FLT ATTENDANTS. AT THIS POINT WE WERE XING THE HOLD SHORT LINE AND I TOLD THE CREW, WE WERE NOT READY. THE FA WAS STILL 3/4 OF THE WAY BACK WORKING HER WAY FORWARD. I STILL WORKED ON THE CHKLIST KNOWING THE CAPT WAS GOING TO TAKE OFF. 45 DEGS TO RWY LINE-UP, THE PWR STARTED TO COME UP. I AGAIN SAID THE FLT ATTENDANTS ARE NOT READY, NOW LINED UP AND PWR SET FOR TKOF. 10 FT AWAY FROM HER SEAT, THE FLT ATTENDANT STRUGGLED TO HER SEAT AND GOT THERE BY ABOUT 80 KTS. AGAIN I SAID, FLT ATTENDANTS NOT READY! THE TKOF WAS CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY. APPARENTLY THE LEAD FLT ATTENDANT WAS IN THE BACK GALLEY CHKING ON PROBS WITH A WATER LEAK OR NO WATER PRESSURE. NOT SURE WHY THE CAPT RUSHED THE TKOF VERSUS WAITING A COUPLE OF MINS FOR A LNDG ACFT, BUT WE PRESSED ON. PASSING THROUGH 10000 FT, I MENTIONED TO THE CAPT THAT THE FLT ATTENDANTS WERE GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT UPSET. HE DIDN'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED UNTIL I EXPLAINED IT ALL TO HIM. HE THEN GOT UPSET WITH HIMSELF AND FORGOT ABOUT A 250 KT RESTR AND FLEW NORMAL SPD AT 280 KTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.