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Attributes | |
ACN | 431170 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : eyw.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : eyw.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : eyw.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 431170 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : executed go around |
Consequence | other Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Fll-eyw cleared to 1500 ft MSL by navy key west. We were told to report the airport in sight. The airport was reported insight. We were then cleared for the visual runway 27 at eyw (over top the airbase was approved) contact the eyw tower. Contacting the tower, we were not in sight and told to report over the airbase turning final. We reported over the airbase turning final. We were told not in sight, then air carrier Y checked on with tower for the visual. The tower controller spent the next few seconds yelling at the EMB120. The controller told air carrier Y to break off the approach. At that time the TCASII showed a target +200 ft of our position (there was no target before that time). We did hear air carrier Y making the stepdowns behind us, but we wre unaware of the following distance. We landed with no further events. There was a period of time from the first contact with the EMB120 to about 150 ft AGL where we wre unable to reach the tower controller. She explained the gap in time was due to the fact that she was on the phone with navy key west. After such a long period of time without any response, our intentions were to go around. I was concerned with the close proximity of the other aircraft. We did not have visual contact, last contact was the TCASII at +200 ft. I'm unsure of the information that is exchanged between approach and tower, but maybe a set number of items to advise a VFR tower of aircraft position. The aircraft's close proximity should have been dealt with before the attack on air carrier Y and the approach controller. During the period of time when we were on short final we were unable to get a response from the tower controller. We were not cleared to land yet and I didn't have the EMB120 in sight for the go around. During this short period of time, I felt the safety of the flight was compromised.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC IN A BEECH 1900 HAD AN NMAC WITH AN E120 THAT OVERRAN THEM DURING SHORT FINAL APCH.
Narrative: FLL-EYW CLRED TO 1500 FT MSL BY NAVY KEY WEST. WE WERE TOLD TO RPT THE ARPT IN SIGHT. THE ARPT WAS RPTED INSIGHT. WE WERE THEN CLRED FOR THE VISUAL RWY 27 AT EYW (OVER TOP THE AIRBASE WAS APPROVED) CONTACT THE EYW TWR. CONTACTING THE TWR, WE WERE NOT IN SIGHT AND TOLD TO RPT OVER THE AIRBASE TURNING FINAL. WE RPTED OVER THE AIRBASE TURNING FINAL. WE WERE TOLD NOT IN SIGHT, THEN ACR Y CHKED ON WITH TWR FOR THE VISUAL. THE TWR CTLR SPENT THE NEXT FEW SECONDS YELLING AT THE EMB120. THE CTLR TOLD ACR Y TO BREAK OFF THE APCH. AT THAT TIME THE TCASII SHOWED A TARGET +200 FT OF OUR POS (THERE WAS NO TARGET BEFORE THAT TIME). WE DID HEAR ACR Y MAKING THE STEPDOWNS BEHIND US, BUT WE WRE UNAWARE OF THE FOLLOWING DISTANCE. WE LANDED WITH NO FURTHER EVENTS. THERE WAS A PERIOD OF TIME FROM THE FIRST CONTACT WITH THE EMB120 TO ABOUT 150 FT AGL WHERE WE WRE UNABLE TO REACH THE TWR CTLR. SHE EXPLAINED THE GAP IN TIME WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT SHE WAS ON THE PHONE WITH NAVY KEY WEST. AFTER SUCH A LONG PERIOD OF TIME WITHOUT ANY RESPONSE, OUR INTENTIONS WERE TO GO AROUND. I WAS CONCERNED WITH THE CLOSE PROX OF THE OTHER ACFT. WE DID NOT HAVE VISUAL CONTACT, LAST CONTACT WAS THE TCASII AT +200 FT. I'M UNSURE OF THE INFO THAT IS EXCHANGED BTWN APCH AND TWR, BUT MAYBE A SET NUMBER OF ITEMS TO ADVISE A VFR TWR OF ACFT POS. THE ACFT'S CLOSE PROX SHOULD HAVE BEEN DEALT WITH BEFORE THE ATTACK ON ACR Y AND THE APCH CTLR. DURING THE PERIOD OF TIME WHEN WE WERE ON SHORT FINAL WE WERE UNABLE TO GET A RESPONSE FROM THE TWR CTLR. WE WERE NOT CLRED TO LAND YET AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE EMB120 IN SIGHT FOR THE GAR. DURING THIS SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, I FELT THE SAFETY OF THE FLT WAS COMPROMISED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.