A cpr jet is given an urgent amended clearance for a heading and altitude change due to wrong altitude, opposite direction traffic on ar-1 south of wilmington, nc.

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Attributes
ACN	432078
Time
Date	199903
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : crg.vortac
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 41000 msl bound upper : 43000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zjx.artcc
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Route In Use	enroute : atlantic enroute airway : ar1.airway
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zjx.artcc
Make Model Name	Commercial Fixed Wing
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Route In Use	enroute : atlantic enroute airway : ar1.airway
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 100
ASRS Report	432078
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Operational Deviation
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : zjx.artcc

Narrative:

Sbound on AR1 near torry as cleared by ATC at FL430 (frequency 134.85 at PM07Z). ZJX gave clearance, 'turn 50 degrees right, descend immediately to FL410.' after approximately 5 seconds, ZJX said, 'turn further right to heading 270 degrees' and requested our altitude. I responded with an immediate descent (2000+ FPM) and a hard right turn (30 degree angle of bank). The PNF informed ZJX that we were now level at FL410. ZJX sounded relieved and thanked us for our cooperation. When asked what the problem was, ZJX said that we had opposite direction traffic at FL430. After being cleared direct to hobee (at FL410), tcasi displayed the opposite direction traffic at FL430 (about 4 mi offset to our left). My question: why is ZJX using wrong way flight levels? Other pilots have noticed this anomaly and try to resolve it by requesting new altitude prior to jax airspace.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A CPR JET IS GIVEN AN URGENT AMENDED CLRNC FOR A HDG AND ALT CHANGE DUE TO WRONG ALT, OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC ON AR-1 S OF WILMINGTON, NC.

Narrative: SBOUND ON AR1 NEAR TORRY AS CLRED BY ATC AT FL430 (FREQ 134.85 AT PM07Z). ZJX GAVE CLRNC, 'TURN 50 DEGS R, DSND IMMEDIATELY TO FL410.' AFTER APPROX 5 SECONDS, ZJX SAID, 'TURN FURTHER R TO HDG 270 DEGS' AND REQUESTED OUR ALT. I RESPONDED WITH AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT (2000+ FPM) AND A HARD R TURN (30 DEG ANGLE OF BANK). THE PNF INFORMED ZJX THAT WE WERE NOW LEVEL AT FL410. ZJX SOUNDED RELIEVED AND THANKED US FOR OUR COOPERATION. WHEN ASKED WHAT THE PROB WAS, ZJX SAID THAT WE HAD OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC AT FL430. AFTER BEING CLRED DIRECT TO HOBEE (AT FL410), TCASI DISPLAYED THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC AT FL430 (ABOUT 4 MI OFFSET TO OUR L). MY QUESTION: WHY IS ZJX USING WRONG WAY FLT LEVELS? OTHER PLTS HAVE NOTICED THIS ANOMALY AND TRY TO RESOLVE IT BY REQUESTING NEW ALT PRIOR TO JAX AIRSPACE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.