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Attributes | |
ACN | 432860 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : essa.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 432860 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Arlanda clearance delivery gave us our clearance over the radio which all 3 crew members heard and read back the alola 3G departure. After departure, control asked us what SID we were flying, control replied that our clearance was the nortel 3G, but there was no problem. After leveloff we queried the tower controller who said that he gave us the nortel departure because of noise at that time of night. Tower said that the tape will be pulled. The crew and I discussed this incidence at length among ourselves. Our conclusion was that we all definitely heard alola departure and that nortel was not near in phraseology given the language accent. Local time of XA00 of course would be a factor. A possible solution to avoid a repeat would be to post the valid time on the SID plate, ie, not available at night due to noise.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR 3 ENG TURBOJET FREIGHTER CREW RPTS GETTING THE WRONG SID CLRNC AT A FOREIGN ARPT.
Narrative: ARLANDA CLRNC DELIVERY GAVE US OUR CLRNC OVER THE RADIO WHICH ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS HEARD AND READ BACK THE ALOLA 3G DEP. AFTER DEP, CTL ASKED US WHAT SID WE WERE FLYING, CTL REPLIED THAT OUR CLRNC WAS THE NORTEL 3G, BUT THERE WAS NO PROB. AFTER LEVELOFF WE QUERIED THE TWR CTLR WHO SAID THAT HE GAVE US THE NORTEL DEP BECAUSE OF NOISE AT THAT TIME OF NIGHT. TWR SAID THAT THE TAPE WILL BE PULLED. THE CREW AND I DISCUSSED THIS INCIDENCE AT LENGTH AMONG OURSELVES. OUR CONCLUSION WAS THAT WE ALL DEFINITELY HEARD ALOLA DEP AND THAT NORTEL WAS NOT NEAR IN PHRASEOLOGY GIVEN THE LANGUAGE ACCENT. LCL TIME OF XA00 OF COURSE WOULD BE A FACTOR. A POSSIBLE SOLUTION TO AVOID A REPEAT WOULD BE TO POST THE VALID TIME ON THE SID PLATE, IE, NOT AVAILABLE AT NIGHT DUE TO NOISE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.