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Attributes | |
ACN | 433173 |
Time | |
Date | 199903 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : smt.vor |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : vhhh.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-C/F |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : roach !+ |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 180 |
ASRS Report | 433173 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Clearance was requested by captain. All 3 crew members were listening. Clearance from hkg controller sounded like roach 1 departure SID, but there is also a perch 1 SID. None of us could understand him. The captain had him confirm the roach 1 SID. Again, the controller sounded like roach 1. We concurred. The captain read back the clearance as roach 1. We departed runway 7R. You guessed it. Departure control wanted to know why we were deviating left of course. His clearance was for the perch 1 departure. Thankfully there was no departing traffic off runway 7L. This crew flies to most countries in the world, so is used to ATC dialect problems. Whoever allowed the design of this departure with waypoints so similar to slip through, should have to be the only one to sift through the wreckage of the aftermath. Get one of the names changed!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EXPERIENCED B747 FLC HAD DIFFICULTIES UNDERSTANDING VHHH CLRNC DELIVERY AND FLEW THE WRONG DEP. A DEP THAT COULD HAVE CONFLICTED WITH A DEP FROM THE PARALLEL RWY.
Narrative: CLRNC WAS REQUESTED BY CAPT. ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS WERE LISTENING. CLRNC FROM HKG CTLR SOUNDED LIKE ROACH 1 DEP SID, BUT THERE IS ALSO A PERCH 1 SID. NONE OF US COULD UNDERSTAND HIM. THE CAPT HAD HIM CONFIRM THE ROACH 1 SID. AGAIN, THE CTLR SOUNDED LIKE ROACH 1. WE CONCURRED. THE CAPT READ BACK THE CLRNC AS ROACH 1. WE DEPARTED RWY 7R. YOU GUESSED IT. DEP CTL WANTED TO KNOW WHY WE WERE DEVIATING L OF COURSE. HIS CLRNC WAS FOR THE PERCH 1 DEP. THANKFULLY THERE WAS NO DEPARTING TFC OFF RWY 7L. THIS CREW FLIES TO MOST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD, SO IS USED TO ATC DIALECT PROBS. WHOEVER ALLOWED THE DESIGN OF THIS DEP WITH WAYPOINTS SO SIMILAR TO SLIP THROUGH, SHOULD HAVE TO BE THE ONLY ONE TO SIFT THROUGH THE WRECKAGE OF THE AFTERMATH. GET ONE OF THE NAMES CHANGED!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.