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Attributes | |
ACN | 433865 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zid.artcc |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl single value : 23000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc artcc : zid.artcc tracon : clt.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors arrival star : shine 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 433865 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
ZID forgot to hand us off to ZTL while en route from cvg to clt. By the time we reached hmu (the start of the shine 5 arrival to clt) we noticed their mistake and attempted to contact them. (We could hear them, but they could not hear us.) we tried several other frequencys but with no success. Finally we contacted clt approach who gave us a ZTL frequency. At this time we were over clt at 23000 ft. We descended without incident. I believe, due to 120 mph winds at altitude which gave us a speed of well over 600 KTS ground speed led to the fact that they forgot to hand us off. They are used to us flying the same route each day (6 times a day). Such high ground speeds are unusual on this route.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZID ARTCC CTLR FAILS TO HAND ACFT OFF TO ZTL ARTCC CTLR, ULTIMATELY RESULTING IN RPTR ENTERING ZTL AIRSPACE WITHOUT PERMISSION AND BEING OVER HIS DEST CITY AT 23000 FT MSL.
Narrative: ZID FORGOT TO HAND US OFF TO ZTL WHILE ENRTE FROM CVG TO CLT. BY THE TIME WE REACHED HMU (THE START OF THE SHINE 5 ARR TO CLT) WE NOTICED THEIR MISTAKE AND ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT THEM. (WE COULD HEAR THEM, BUT THEY COULD NOT HEAR US.) WE TRIED SEVERAL OTHER FREQS BUT WITH NO SUCCESS. FINALLY WE CONTACTED CLT APCH WHO GAVE US A ZTL FREQ. AT THIS TIME WE WERE OVER CLT AT 23000 FT. WE DSNDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. I BELIEVE, DUE TO 120 MPH WINDS AT ALT WHICH GAVE US A SPD OF WELL OVER 600 KTS GND SPD LED TO THE FACT THAT THEY FORGOT TO HAND US OFF. THEY ARE USED TO US FLYING THE SAME RTE EACH DAY (6 TIMES A DAY). SUCH HIGH GND SPDS ARE UNUSUAL ON THIS RTE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.