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Attributes | |
ACN | 434081 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : obk.vor |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 29000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Route In Use | enroute airway : j84.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 434081 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 5300 |
ASRS Report | 434262 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were on J84 approximately 35 NM south of northbrook, il, climbing to assigned FL290 at approximately 2000 FPM when traffic conflict developed. Our TCASII TA sounded, followed immediately by radio transmission from the aircraft at FL290 to ZAU stating that he had traffic ahead. Within seconds of our TA and the radio call we made visual contact with the other aircraft and saw that he was at FL290 approximately 2 O'clock moving right to left. Within a few seconds, and as our TCASII RA advised 'descend,' we started an immediate descent and maintained visual contact with the traffic. In apparent reaction to the radio call from the other aircraft, ZAU transmitted 'aircraft X, confirm FL280.' because we had abandoned our climb to FL290 and initiated a descent in response to the RA, we elected to level and remain at FL280 and responded 'roger, aircraft X, FL280.' because of the nature of the conflict as well as the absence of any other clearance or transmission from ZAU, it was apparent that the intent was for us to remain at FL280. The initial clearance to climb to FL290 was issued with no TA's, and the altitude was proper for our direction of flight. Throughout the time we were under the control of this sector of ZAU. Radio traffic was relatively light, especially with respect to the previous low sector, which had given us a 360 degree turn to facilitate our climb to the top of his sector. No TA's were issued with regard to the conflict traffic or any other traffic while climbing in this high sector. Had a clearance to FL280 been issued short of the standard FL290 or FL330, it would have been prudent to issue a reason for the nonstandard altitude in the form of a TA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 CREW RESPONDS TO TCASII RA WHILE CLBING TO FL290.
Narrative: WE WERE ON J84 APPROX 35 NM S OF NORTHBROOK, IL, CLBING TO ASSIGNED FL290 AT APPROX 2000 FPM WHEN TFC CONFLICT DEVELOPED. OUR TCASII TA SOUNDED, FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY RADIO XMISSION FROM THE ACFT AT FL290 TO ZAU STATING THAT HE HAD TFC AHEAD. WITHIN SECONDS OF OUR TA AND THE RADIO CALL WE MADE VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE OTHER ACFT AND SAW THAT HE WAS AT FL290 APPROX 2 O'CLOCK MOVING R TO L. WITHIN A FEW SECONDS, AND AS OUR TCASII RA ADVISED 'DSND,' WE STARTED AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT AND MAINTAINED VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE TFC. IN APPARENT REACTION TO THE RADIO CALL FROM THE OTHER ACFT, ZAU XMITTED 'ACFT X, CONFIRM FL280.' BECAUSE WE HAD ABANDONED OUR CLB TO FL290 AND INITIATED A DSCNT IN RESPONSE TO THE RA, WE ELECTED TO LEVEL AND REMAIN AT FL280 AND RESPONDED 'ROGER, ACFT X, FL280.' BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE CONFLICT AS WELL AS THE ABSENCE OF ANY OTHER CLRNC OR XMISSION FROM ZAU, IT WAS APPARENT THAT THE INTENT WAS FOR US TO REMAIN AT FL280. THE INITIAL CLRNC TO CLB TO FL290 WAS ISSUED WITH NO TA'S, AND THE ALT WAS PROPER FOR OUR DIRECTION OF FLT. THROUGHOUT THE TIME WE WERE UNDER THE CTL OF THIS SECTOR OF ZAU. RADIO TFC WAS RELATIVELY LIGHT, ESPECIALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE PREVIOUS LOW SECTOR, WHICH HAD GIVEN US A 360 DEG TURN TO FACILITATE OUR CLB TO THE TOP OF HIS SECTOR. NO TA'S WERE ISSUED WITH REGARD TO THE CONFLICT TFC OR ANY OTHER TFC WHILE CLBING IN THIS HIGH SECTOR. HAD A CLRNC TO FL280 BEEN ISSUED SHORT OF THE STANDARD FL290 OR FL330, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRUDENT TO ISSUE A REASON FOR THE NONSTANDARD ALT IN THE FORM OF A TA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.