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Attributes | |
ACN | 434249 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : day.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl single value : 10 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : day.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Challenger CL604 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3050 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 434249 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were cleared for takeoff runway 36 in day, oh. Winds were 320 degrees at 7 KTS. It was the captain's takeoff. The plane was at a light weight. We rolled down the runway. The nose came off the ground followed by the right main then the left. This was before V1 speed. We began drifting toward the grass, crabbed to the left in ground effect. The PF didn't make any immediate corrections as we were heading toward the edge of the runway. I immediately put my hands on the controls as he was saying 'what's going on? What's happening?' before I could take control of the aircraft, the captain exclaimed 'engine failure.' this shocked me and distraction me as I looked at the normal indications on the gauges. He had absolutely no reason to think engine failure. So thinking it was an engine failure, he pitched the nose down and his hands went to the thrust levers. The nose gear recontacted the runway along with the main gear. I stated that the engines were fine and to rotate. We rotated 20 or 50 KTS past vr and towards the last 1/3 of the runway. It shook us both up. The captain explained he thought it was engine failure because he was looking at the rudder ball on takeoff and saw it full out to one side. The captain's judgement and inaction was certainly a contributor. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the captain was reported to company and that the captain and the reporter were re-evaluated for proficiency in the simulator. Reporter further stated that disciplinary action was taken against both crew members. It was stated that the procedures used for this reported takeoff incident were the procedures taught and tested by the company instructor pilots and check pilots. Reporter was not sure of which report the callback was concerning as she claims that she submits reports concerning serious matters such as this on a regular basis.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC FLYING A CL65 AT DAY EXPERIENCED CTL DIFFICULTY DURING THE TKOF ROLL.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF RWY 36 IN DAY, OH. WINDS WERE 320 DEGS AT 7 KTS. IT WAS THE CAPT'S TKOF. THE PLANE WAS AT A LIGHT WT. WE ROLLED DOWN THE RWY. THE NOSE CAME OFF THE GND FOLLOWED BY THE R MAIN THEN THE L. THIS WAS BEFORE V1 SPD. WE BEGAN DRIFTING TOWARD THE GRASS, CRABBED TO THE L IN GND EFFECT. THE PF DIDN'T MAKE ANY IMMEDIATE CORRECTIONS AS WE WERE HDG TOWARD THE EDGE OF THE RWY. I IMMEDIATELY PUT MY HANDS ON THE CTLS AS HE WAS SAYING 'WHAT'S GOING ON? WHAT'S HAPPENING?' BEFORE I COULD TAKE CTL OF THE ACFT, THE CAPT EXCLAIMED 'ENG FAILURE.' THIS SHOCKED ME AND DISTR ME AS I LOOKED AT THE NORMAL INDICATIONS ON THE GAUGES. HE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO THINK ENG FAILURE. SO THINKING IT WAS AN ENG FAILURE, HE PITCHED THE NOSE DOWN AND HIS HANDS WENT TO THE THRUST LEVERS. THE NOSE GEAR RECONTACTED THE RWY ALONG WITH THE MAIN GEAR. I STATED THAT THE ENGS WERE FINE AND TO ROTATE. WE ROTATED 20 OR 50 KTS PAST VR AND TOWARDS THE LAST 1/3 OF THE RWY. IT SHOOK US BOTH UP. THE CAPT EXPLAINED HE THOUGHT IT WAS ENG FAILURE BECAUSE HE WAS LOOKING AT THE RUDDER BALL ON TKOF AND SAW IT FULL OUT TO ONE SIDE. THE CAPT'S JUDGEMENT AND INACTION WAS CERTAINLY A CONTRIBUTOR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE CAPT WAS RPTED TO COMPANY AND THAT THE CAPT AND THE RPTR WERE RE-EVALUATED FOR PROFICIENCY IN THE SIMULATOR. RPTR FURTHER STATED THAT DISCIPLINARY ACTION WAS TAKEN AGAINST BOTH CREW MEMBERS. IT WAS STATED THAT THE PROCS USED FOR THIS RPTED TKOF INCIDENT WERE THE PROCS TAUGHT AND TESTED BY THE COMPANY INSTRUCTOR PLTS AND CHK PLTS. RPTR WAS NOT SURE OF WHICH RPT THE CALLBACK WAS CONCERNING AS SHE CLAIMS THAT SHE SUBMITS RPTS CONCERNING SERIOUS MATTERS SUCH AS THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.