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Attributes | |
ACN | 435730 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos.airport |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl single value : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : czqm.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : relief pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7150 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 435730 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 220 |
ASRS Report | 435958 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : disp4 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor Company Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Company |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was acting as international relief officer for this flight from cdg to phl. Our flight plan called for us to be rereleased over tusky changing our destination from boston to our intended point of landing, philadelphia. The captain was having a rest period from about 05W to about 1 hour prior to reaching tusky. During this time I was occupying the left seat. In addition to making position reports, I was monitoring fuel and kept a running estimate for fuel over tusky. When we first started receiving ACARS, I updated our WX information for our destination and alternates. The WX was VFR at our destination and alternates and I was estimating about 5000 pounds of excess fuel over tusky. I was expecting an ACARS message any time with an artr to change our destination from boston to philadelphia. About 1 hour prior to reaching tusky, the captain returned to his seat. I do not recall if I briefed the captain about expecting an artr for our rerelease, but we did not request an artr. We did finally receive an artr about 40 mins after passing tusky. It was at that point that we realized that we had not requested an artr prior to passing tusky. All 6 seats in the cockpit were occupied on this flight. The distrs created by the full cockpit combined with fatigue associated with the early hour contributed to this oversight. Supplemental information from acn 435958: the flight plan for a trip from paris cdg to phl called to be rerelease D at the united states/canada fir. We received an ACARS message 40 mins after passing the rerelease point giving us an artr to proceed to phl. Factors contributing to the event: 1) company dispatch did not follow flight properly. They should have contacted crew on time even if the responsibility is shared. Communications over canada are good. 2) rerelease is seldom used by this company. Crews are not used to it and are not in the habit of using it. There was no valid reason for the rerelease . WX was good and loads average.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767-300ER OVERFLIES ITS ASSIGNED RELEASE POINT BEFORE DISPATCHER SENDS A REQUIRED COMPANY RERELEASE MESSAGE FOR CONTINUED FLT TO PHL, PA.
Narrative: I WAS ACTING AS INTL RELIEF OFFICER FOR THIS FLT FROM CDG TO PHL. OUR FLT PLAN CALLED FOR US TO BE RERELEASED OVER TUSKY CHANGING OUR DEST FROM BOSTON TO OUR INTENDED POINT OF LNDG, PHILADELPHIA. THE CAPT WAS HAVING A REST PERIOD FROM ABOUT 05W TO ABOUT 1 HR PRIOR TO REACHING TUSKY. DURING THIS TIME I WAS OCCUPYING THE L SEAT. IN ADDITION TO MAKING POS RPTS, I WAS MONITORING FUEL AND KEPT A RUNNING ESTIMATE FOR FUEL OVER TUSKY. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED RECEIVING ACARS, I UPDATED OUR WX INFO FOR OUR DEST AND ALTERNATES. THE WX WAS VFR AT OUR DEST AND ALTERNATES AND I WAS ESTIMATING ABOUT 5000 LBS OF EXCESS FUEL OVER TUSKY. I WAS EXPECTING AN ACARS MESSAGE ANY TIME WITH AN ARTR TO CHANGE OUR DEST FROM BOSTON TO PHILADELPHIA. ABOUT 1 HR PRIOR TO REACHING TUSKY, THE CAPT RETURNED TO HIS SEAT. I DO NOT RECALL IF I BRIEFED THE CAPT ABOUT EXPECTING AN ARTR FOR OUR RERELEASE, BUT WE DID NOT REQUEST AN ARTR. WE DID FINALLY RECEIVE AN ARTR ABOUT 40 MINS AFTER PASSING TUSKY. IT WAS AT THAT POINT THAT WE REALIZED THAT WE HAD NOT REQUESTED AN ARTR PRIOR TO PASSING TUSKY. ALL 6 SEATS IN THE COCKPIT WERE OCCUPIED ON THIS FLT. THE DISTRS CREATED BY THE FULL COCKPIT COMBINED WITH FATIGUE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EARLY HR CONTRIBUTED TO THIS OVERSIGHT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 435958: THE FLT PLAN FOR A TRIP FROM PARIS CDG TO PHL CALLED TO BE RERELEASE D AT THE UNITED STATES/CANADA FIR. WE RECEIVED AN ACARS MESSAGE 40 MINS AFTER PASSING THE RERELEASE POINT GIVING US AN ARTR TO PROCEED TO PHL. FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO THE EVENT: 1) COMPANY DISPATCH DID NOT FOLLOW FLT PROPERLY. THEY SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED CREW ON TIME EVEN IF THE RESPONSIBILITY IS SHARED. COMS OVER CANADA ARE GOOD. 2) RERELEASE IS SELDOM USED BY THIS COMPANY. CREWS ARE NOT USED TO IT AND ARE NOT IN THE HABIT OF USING IT. THERE WAS NO VALID REASON FOR THE RERELEASE . WX WAS GOOD AND LOADS AVERAGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.