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Attributes | |
ACN | 435791 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bwi.airport |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bwi.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 10 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 435791 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared for a visual to runway 10. Captain briefs runway 10, and has the plate in front of him. (I didn't notice whether or not he had the ILS frequency in the box or not.) beautiful day out. Captain is focused outside completely. I watch his descent and confign of the aircraft and begin to realize that he wasn't planning a landing on runway 10 at all. He's aiming for runway 15R. Localizer comes alive, and I speak up and say 'hey, there goes the localizer, are you going to turn?' bwi tower notices as well and asks if we want to land runway 15R. Captain acknowledges and we land runway 15R with clearance. He was supposed to have went to runway 10. This was our last leg of a 3 day trip. I was somewhat intimidated by him. I saw early on that the approach confign between speed, altitude and degrees to turn were not correct. I waited too long to say something. I was thinking, he's been here 1000 times, I must be looking at the wrong runway. Plus I didn't want him to think I was dumb if I said something (I know, bad). I'm learning. While watching this progress, I had my eyes locked on watching the localizer and profile to be certain that I was 100% correct before I said anything. Had I told him early on that '10' was the runway, I'm sure it could have helped, although I flinch a bit still thinking how he probably would have said 'I know that...' leaving him with the thought that I was questioning his technique. Well, that's what I'll do next time regardless. Again, tower cleared us to land, and we did without incident. But we should have been doing a visual to runway 10.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MLG LINED UP WITH ANOTHER RWY THAN CLRED FOR DURING A VISUAL APCH AND AFTER BEING QUESTIONED BY THE FO AND TWR CTLR WAS CLRED TO LAND ON THE RWY TO WHICH ALIGNED.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL TO RWY 10. CAPT BRIEFS RWY 10, AND HAS THE PLATE IN FRONT OF HIM. (I DIDN'T NOTICE WHETHER OR NOT HE HAD THE ILS FREQ IN THE BOX OR NOT.) BEAUTIFUL DAY OUT. CAPT IS FOCUSED OUTSIDE COMPLETELY. I WATCH HIS DSCNT AND CONFIGN OF THE ACFT AND BEGIN TO REALIZE THAT HE WASN'T PLANNING A LNDG ON RWY 10 AT ALL. HE'S AIMING FOR RWY 15R. LOC COMES ALIVE, AND I SPEAK UP AND SAY 'HEY, THERE GOES THE LOC, ARE YOU GOING TO TURN?' BWI TWR NOTICES AS WELL AND ASKS IF WE WANT TO LAND RWY 15R. CAPT ACKNOWLEDGES AND WE LAND RWY 15R WITH CLRNC. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE WENT TO RWY 10. THIS WAS OUR LAST LEG OF A 3 DAY TRIP. I WAS SOMEWHAT INTIMIDATED BY HIM. I SAW EARLY ON THAT THE APCH CONFIGN BTWN SPD, ALT AND DEGS TO TURN WERE NOT CORRECT. I WAITED TOO LONG TO SAY SOMETHING. I WAS THINKING, HE'S BEEN HERE 1000 TIMES, I MUST BE LOOKING AT THE WRONG RWY. PLUS I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO THINK I WAS DUMB IF I SAID SOMETHING (I KNOW, BAD). I'M LEARNING. WHILE WATCHING THIS PROGRESS, I HAD MY EYES LOCKED ON WATCHING THE LOC AND PROFILE TO BE CERTAIN THAT I WAS 100% CORRECT BEFORE I SAID ANYTHING. HAD I TOLD HIM EARLY ON THAT '10' WAS THE RWY, I'M SURE IT COULD HAVE HELPED, ALTHOUGH I FLINCH A BIT STILL THINKING HOW HE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE SAID 'I KNOW THAT...' LEAVING HIM WITH THE THOUGHT THAT I WAS QUESTIONING HIS TECHNIQUE. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'LL DO NEXT TIME REGARDLESS. AGAIN, TWR CLRED US TO LAND, AND WE DID WITHOUT INCIDENT. BUT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING A VISUAL TO RWY 10.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.