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Attributes | |
ACN | 435929 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : n99.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : hold short |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 260 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 435929 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
There were 4 or 5 aircraft in the pattern that afternoon, and I was in a warrior practicing short/soft field techniques. The last 1/3 of runway 27 has no taxiway and pilots sometimes land and hold at the turnaround at the end of runway 27 for landing traffic. Today was no exception. I was landing behind a C152, so I extended my downwind leg and set up for a short field landing. I kept the C152 in sight until I saw him roll past the last taxiway, 2000 ft down the runway. Then I got busy with my landing, expecting the C152 to hold at the end, although they had not announced their intentions. I called my position at each turn in the pattern, and again on short final. I did a short field landing and stopped about 500 ft before the taxiway, about 1000 ft behind the C152. Then I noticed the C152 turning around to back-taxi, and then they stopped when they saw me sitting there. The instructor asked on the radio 'what are you doing?' a few times with no other identify, then announced he was taxiing clear of the runway, and did so. After he was clear, I followed him off the runway at a safe distance. Contributing factors: 1) once I saw the C152 roll past the last taxiway, I assumed he would hold at the end instead of immediately starting to a back-taxi. 2) there was some bumpiness on short final, as it was a breezy day, and this distraction me from keeping an eye on him. 3) there was a lot of radio traffic, and the instructor and student may not have noticed landing traffic behind them. If they had, they might have held at the end. 4) since I was already set up for a short field landing, I executed it as I had planned, stopping about 1000 ft behind the C152. However, if I'd had brake problems or a change in the wind, there could have been more serious problems. Corrective actions: 1) I could have done a go around. 2) the C152 could have held at the other end turnaround. Between these 2 alternatives, I think holding at the end would involve less overall risk.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PVT PLT OF SMA LANDS ON A RWY STILL OCCUPIED BY PRECEDING TFC.
Narrative: THERE WERE 4 OR 5 ACFT IN THE PATTERN THAT AFTERNOON, AND I WAS IN A WARRIOR PRACTICING SHORT/SOFT FIELD TECHNIQUES. THE LAST 1/3 OF RWY 27 HAS NO TXWY AND PLTS SOMETIMES LAND AND HOLD AT THE TURNAROUND AT THE END OF RWY 27 FOR LNDG TFC. TODAY WAS NO EXCEPTION. I WAS LNDG BEHIND A C152, SO I EXTENDED MY DOWNWIND LEG AND SET UP FOR A SHORT FIELD LNDG. I KEPT THE C152 IN SIGHT UNTIL I SAW HIM ROLL PAST THE LAST TXWY, 2000 FT DOWN THE RWY. THEN I GOT BUSY WITH MY LNDG, EXPECTING THE C152 TO HOLD AT THE END, ALTHOUGH THEY HAD NOT ANNOUNCED THEIR INTENTIONS. I CALLED MY POS AT EACH TURN IN THE PATTERN, AND AGAIN ON SHORT FINAL. I DID A SHORT FIELD LNDG AND STOPPED ABOUT 500 FT BEFORE THE TXWY, ABOUT 1000 FT BEHIND THE C152. THEN I NOTICED THE C152 TURNING AROUND TO BACK-TAXI, AND THEN THEY STOPPED WHEN THEY SAW ME SITTING THERE. THE INSTRUCTOR ASKED ON THE RADIO 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING?' A FEW TIMES WITH NO OTHER IDENT, THEN ANNOUNCED HE WAS TAXIING CLR OF THE RWY, AND DID SO. AFTER HE WAS CLR, I FOLLOWED HIM OFF THE RWY AT A SAFE DISTANCE. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 1) ONCE I SAW THE C152 ROLL PAST THE LAST TXWY, I ASSUMED HE WOULD HOLD AT THE END INSTEAD OF IMMEDIATELY STARTING TO A BACK-TAXI. 2) THERE WAS SOME BUMPINESS ON SHORT FINAL, AS IT WAS A BREEZY DAY, AND THIS DISTR ME FROM KEEPING AN EYE ON HIM. 3) THERE WAS A LOT OF RADIO TFC, AND THE INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT MAY NOT HAVE NOTICED LNDG TFC BEHIND THEM. IF THEY HAD, THEY MIGHT HAVE HELD AT THE END. 4) SINCE I WAS ALREADY SET UP FOR A SHORT FIELD LNDG, I EXECUTED IT AS I HAD PLANNED, STOPPING ABOUT 1000 FT BEHIND THE C152. HOWEVER, IF I'D HAD BRAKE PROBS OR A CHANGE IN THE WIND, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE SERIOUS PROBS. CORRECTIVE ACTIONS: 1) I COULD HAVE DONE A GAR. 2) THE C152 COULD HAVE HELD AT THE OTHER END TURNAROUND. BTWN THESE 2 ALTERNATIVES, I THINK HOLDING AT THE END WOULD INVOLVE LESS OVERALL RISK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.