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A private instrument rated pilot flying a mooney inadvertently penetrated class C airspace at cak without proper authority/authorized.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 436040 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199904 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cak.airport |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1900 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : cak.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Mooney Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : vfr |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 436040 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Arrived VFR from the northwest and called 16 mi out. I was told to standby. Second call was made 13 mi out and again I was told to stand by. At that point, I descended to 1900 ft MSL and called 11 mi out. I was told to remain clear of the class C airspace. I proceeded sbound parallel to the field, 9 mi out and to the west. I was then called back by the cak ATC controller and instructed to squawk code XXXX. At that point I started to proceed to the field. The controller came back a few mins later and stated turn right, west 270 degrees and stated I violated class C airspace. Before I completed the turn she said contact the tower and I turned back towards the field. Again she stated I violated class C airspace. I was later told by the supervisor that I was not cleared into the class C airspace. The rule is to maintain 2-WAY communication. They should have said remain clear of class C airspace until cleared into or radar idented. This is a very gray area of procedure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PVT INST RATED PLT FLYING A MOONEY INADVERTENTLY PENETRATED CLASS C AIRSPACE AT CAK WITHOUT PROPER AUTH.
Narrative: ARRIVED VFR FROM THE NW AND CALLED 16 MI OUT. I WAS TOLD TO STANDBY. SECOND CALL WAS MADE 13 MI OUT AND AGAIN I WAS TOLD TO STAND BY. AT THAT POINT, I DSNDED TO 1900 FT MSL AND CALLED 11 MI OUT. I WAS TOLD TO REMAIN CLR OF THE CLASS C AIRSPACE. I PROCEEDED SBOUND PARALLEL TO THE FIELD, 9 MI OUT AND TO THE W. I WAS THEN CALLED BACK BY THE CAK ATC CTLR AND INSTRUCTED TO SQUAWK CODE XXXX. AT THAT POINT I STARTED TO PROCEED TO THE FIELD. THE CTLR CAME BACK A FEW MINS LATER AND STATED TURN R, W 270 DEGS AND STATED I VIOLATED CLASS C AIRSPACE. BEFORE I COMPLETED THE TURN SHE SAID CONTACT THE TWR AND I TURNED BACK TOWARDS THE FIELD. AGAIN SHE STATED I VIOLATED CLASS C AIRSPACE. I WAS LATER TOLD BY THE SUPVR THAT I WAS NOT CLRED INTO THE CLASS C AIRSPACE. THE RULE IS TO MAINTAIN 2-WAY COM. THEY SHOULD HAVE SAID REMAIN CLR OF CLASS C AIRSPACE UNTIL CLRED INTO OR RADAR IDENTED. THIS IS A VERY GRAY AREA OF PROC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.