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Attributes | |
ACN | 436041 |
Time | |
Date | 199904 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 6000 agl single value : 39 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc tracon : abe.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 210 Centurion / Turbo Centurion 210C, 210D |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : vfr |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 72 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 436041 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert atc equipment other atc equipment : 1 |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Descending VFR from 10500 ft, radar (nyc) advised 'traffic 11 O'clock, you should pass well behind him.' replied 'negative contact.' nyc handed me off to allentown approach control. Allentown asked if I had seen aircraft go by. I replied yes, that nyc had told me about same. Was much closer than either one of us (ATC or myself) wanted this to be. Suggest possibly holding descending VFR aircraft at safe altitude until any opposing traffic passes. Evasive action taken was a slight turn away.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C210G WITHOUT TCASII HAS TFC CONFLICT REQUIRING PRECAUTIONARY EVASIVE ACTION ON DSCNT TO ABE.
Narrative: DSNDING VFR FROM 10500 FT, RADAR (NYC) ADVISED 'TFC 11 O'CLOCK, YOU SHOULD PASS WELL BEHIND HIM.' REPLIED 'NEGATIVE CONTACT.' NYC HANDED ME OFF TO ALLENTOWN APCH CTL. ALLENTOWN ASKED IF I HAD SEEN ACFT GO BY. I REPLIED YES, THAT NYC HAD TOLD ME ABOUT SAME. WAS MUCH CLOSER THAN EITHER ONE OF US (ATC OR MYSELF) WANTED THIS TO BE. SUGGEST POSSIBLY HOLDING DSNDING VFR ACFT AT SAFE ALT UNTIL ANY OPPOSING TFC PASSES. EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN WAS A SLIGHT TURN AWAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.