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Attributes | |
ACN | 436360 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : flo.airport |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : flo.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1750 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 436360 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Approach just assigned 'on course' to us leaving the flo class D airspace. I told departure passing 1800 ft for 3000 ft. Student confused about for tracking. Altitude went to 4000 ft before I realized it. I initiated conversation with ATC. We weren't assigned an altitude, but we were past what I said we would. To correct, when in VMC outside of class a, B, C, or D airspace, need way to control altitude that is non binding -- like cruise XXX. Ie, range of altitude, say +/-1000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR WITH STUDENT IN A C172 CLBS ABOVE ALT HE HAD INDICATED TO ATC.
Narrative: APCH JUST ASSIGNED 'ON COURSE' TO US LEAVING THE FLO CLASS D AIRSPACE. I TOLD DEP PASSING 1800 FT FOR 3000 FT. STUDENT CONFUSED ABOUT FOR TRACKING. ALT WENT TO 4000 FT BEFORE I REALIZED IT. I INITIATED CONVERSATION WITH ATC. WE WEREN'T ASSIGNED AN ALT, BUT WE WERE PAST WHAT I SAID WE WOULD. TO CORRECT, WHEN IN VMC OUTSIDE OF CLASS A, B, C, OR D AIRSPACE, NEED WAY TO CTL ALT THAT IS NON BINDING -- LIKE CRUISE XXX. IE, RANGE OF ALT, SAY +/-1000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.