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Attributes | |
ACN | 436800 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gvq.airport navaid : gvq.ils |
Altitude | msl single value : 2400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : roc.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 28 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 436800 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : executed missed approach flight crew : returned to original clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We had filed IFR from 9g0 round-trip to 9g0 via gvq, with an ILS approach to be conducted into gvq. After picking up our IFR clearance from buf approach, we were cleared as filed to gvq. After being cleared for the ILS approach at gvq, we were told to change to the local TA frequency. We were not given any special missed approach instructions, therefore I assumed that we would simply be executing the published missed and returning to 9g0. Upon recontacting roc approach on the missed approach, the controller admonished us to make sure 'in the future' that we advise them of our intentions to do a low approach and resume IFR back to our origin airport. Apparently he was under the impression that gvq was our final destination. He further pointed out that had there been real IFR conditions at gvq he might have had other aircraft conflicting with our missed approach. He also reminded us that our clearance limit was gvq, not 9g0. I was under the impression that 'cleared as filed' meant just that -- cleared for your entire route on the flight plan. When the first controller (at buf) gave us our clearance, it did not register that we were cleared only as far as gvq.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 CFI PLT MISUNDERSTOOD CLRNC.
Narrative: WE HAD FILED IFR FROM 9G0 ROUND-TRIP TO 9G0 VIA GVQ, WITH AN ILS APCH TO BE CONDUCTED INTO GVQ. AFTER PICKING UP OUR IFR CLRNC FROM BUF APCH, WE WERE CLRED AS FILED TO GVQ. AFTER BEING CLRED FOR THE ILS APCH AT GVQ, WE WERE TOLD TO CHANGE TO THE LCL TA FREQ. WE WERE NOT GIVEN ANY SPECIAL MISSED APCH INSTRUCTIONS, THEREFORE I ASSUMED THAT WE WOULD SIMPLY BE EXECUTING THE PUBLISHED MISSED AND RETURNING TO 9G0. UPON RECONTACTING ROC APCH ON THE MISSED APCH, THE CTLR ADMONISHED US TO MAKE SURE 'IN THE FUTURE' THAT WE ADVISE THEM OF OUR INTENTIONS TO DO A LOW APCH AND RESUME IFR BACK TO OUR ORIGIN ARPT. APPARENTLY HE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT GVQ WAS OUR FINAL DEST. HE FURTHER POINTED OUT THAT HAD THERE BEEN REAL IFR CONDITIONS AT GVQ HE MIGHT HAVE HAD OTHER ACFT CONFLICTING WITH OUR MISSED APCH. HE ALSO REMINDED US THAT OUR CLRNC LIMIT WAS GVQ, NOT 9G0. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT 'CLRED AS FILED' MEANT JUST THAT -- CLRED FOR YOUR ENTIRE RTE ON THE FLT PLAN. WHEN THE FIRST CTLR (AT BUF) GAVE US OUR CLRNC, IT DID NOT REGISTER THAT WE WERE CLRED ONLY AS FAR AS GVQ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.