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Attributes | |
ACN | 437374 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : sword |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : a509.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 20000 |
ASRS Report | 437374 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 1500 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 437230 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : turbulence inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While proceeding direct minow at FL350, ride got choppy. Requested descent to FL310. Still choppy, requested descent to FL280 and it was also choppy. Started to slow for chop while under ZMA radar control. Approximately 5 mins later, ZMA called and said radar service terminated and to report minow this frequency. 4 mins prior to minow, ZMA asked if we were at minow intersection. We advised ZMA we will be at minow in 4 mins. At minow, we reported minow to ZMA. ZMA came back, 'roger, over minow, now call new york radio 130.7.' called new york and reported minow, eliom and sword. After approximately 15 mins, new york called back and questioned the minow estimate. Then they said stand by for phone patch with ZHU. ZHU asked our TAS and mach speed then said they were planning their separation on flight plan speed. After landing mex on phone conversation with ZHU and ZMA, they advised there was not a loss of aircraft separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CREW SLOWED ACFT SPD BECAUSE OF TURB.
Narrative: WHILE PROCEEDING DIRECT MINOW AT FL350, RIDE GOT CHOPPY. REQUESTED DSCNT TO FL310. STILL CHOPPY, REQUESTED DSCNT TO FL280 AND IT WAS ALSO CHOPPY. STARTED TO SLOW FOR CHOP WHILE UNDER ZMA RADAR CTL. APPROX 5 MINS LATER, ZMA CALLED AND SAID RADAR SVC TERMINATED AND TO RPT MINOW THIS FREQ. 4 MINS PRIOR TO MINOW, ZMA ASKED IF WE WERE AT MINOW INTXN. WE ADVISED ZMA WE WILL BE AT MINOW IN 4 MINS. AT MINOW, WE RPTED MINOW TO ZMA. ZMA CAME BACK, 'ROGER, OVER MINOW, NOW CALL NEW YORK RADIO 130.7.' CALLED NEW YORK AND RPTED MINOW, ELIOM AND SWORD. AFTER APPROX 15 MINS, NEW YORK CALLED BACK AND QUESTIONED THE MINOW ESTIMATE. THEN THEY SAID STAND BY FOR PHONE PATCH WITH ZHU. ZHU ASKED OUR TAS AND MACH SPD THEN SAID THEY WERE PLANNING THEIR SEPARATION ON FLT PLAN SPD. AFTER LNDG MEX ON PHONE CONVERSATION WITH ZHU AND ZMA, THEY ADVISED THERE WAS NOT A LOSS OF ACFT SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.