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Attributes | |
ACN | 437430 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mke.tracon |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl single value : 2600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mke.tracon tower : enw.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 4 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Function | flight crew : single pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 3300 |
ASRS Report | 437430 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Requested practice ILS approach to runway 4 at racine and told mkc approach we were concerned about penetrating kenosha airport's airspace. We were vectored through kenosha airspace on the original approach and cleared for the approach, frequency change approved. About 3 mi from the OM (paser), told to remain VFR, no separation provided. We were cleared for second approach, VFR on our own, report procedure turn inbound, which we did. Same procedure for third and fourth approach. On the fourth approach, there was an aircraft inbound to runway 4 just after we executed the miss for approach #3. He reported 5 mi out for a straight-in landing. When clear, we switched from unicom back to mkc approach well before reaching kenosha airspace, but didn't contact approach until procedure turn inbound as requested. The controller was angry, said he'd tried to reach us, and were in kenosha airspace (which was true). Kenosha airspace begins about 2 mi south of paser and you'll nick it in the procedure turn more often than not. I did say we may have been off frequency, but didn't elaborate or argue. There was a period of silence and a series of stepped on xmissions after switching back to approach before we called procedure turn inbound. Normal procedure for mkc is to request we contact them on the miss. We thought it odd he didn't make that request on any of the approachs but figured he knew what he was doing. (On the original vector we went through the ILS 15 mi from the field. He had forgotten us.)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PLT ENTERED ENW CLASS D WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: REQUESTED PRACTICE ILS APCH TO RWY 4 AT RACINE AND TOLD MKC APCH WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT PENETRATING KENOSHA ARPT'S AIRSPACE. WE WERE VECTORED THROUGH KENOSHA AIRSPACE ON THE ORIGINAL APCH AND CLRED FOR THE APCH, FREQ CHANGE APPROVED. ABOUT 3 MI FROM THE OM (PASER), TOLD TO REMAIN VFR, NO SEPARATION PROVIDED. WE WERE CLRED FOR SECOND APCH, VFR ON OUR OWN, RPT PROC TURN INBOUND, WHICH WE DID. SAME PROC FOR THIRD AND FOURTH APCH. ON THE FOURTH APCH, THERE WAS AN ACFT INBOUND TO RWY 4 JUST AFTER WE EXECUTED THE MISS FOR APCH #3. HE RPTED 5 MI OUT FOR A STRAIGHT-IN LNDG. WHEN CLR, WE SWITCHED FROM UNICOM BACK TO MKC APCH WELL BEFORE REACHING KENOSHA AIRSPACE, BUT DIDN'T CONTACT APCH UNTIL PROC TURN INBOUND AS REQUESTED. THE CTLR WAS ANGRY, SAID HE'D TRIED TO REACH US, AND WERE IN KENOSHA AIRSPACE (WHICH WAS TRUE). KENOSHA AIRSPACE BEGINS ABOUT 2 MI S OF PASER AND YOU'LL NICK IT IN THE PROC TURN MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. I DID SAY WE MAY HAVE BEEN OFF FREQ, BUT DIDN'T ELABORATE OR ARGUE. THERE WAS A PERIOD OF SILENCE AND A SERIES OF STEPPED ON XMISSIONS AFTER SWITCHING BACK TO APCH BEFORE WE CALLED PROC TURN INBOUND. NORMAL PROC FOR MKC IS TO REQUEST WE CONTACT THEM ON THE MISS. WE THOUGHT IT ODD HE DIDN'T MAKE THAT REQUEST ON ANY OF THE APCHS BUT FIGURED HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING. (ON THE ORIGINAL VECTOR WE WENT THROUGH THE ILS 15 MI FROM THE FIELD. HE HAD FORGOTTEN US.)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.