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Attributes | |
ACN | 437893 |
Time | |
Date | 199905 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ttt.vor |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : wilbr two |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 437893 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Airspace Structure |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
TTT 042 degree radial 053 DME. Filed to dfw via byp 3 arrival. Reclred wilbr 2 due to skydiving aircraft near byp. Found 1 skydive aircraft on TCASII when level 11000 ft on wilbr 2 at radial/DME fix indicated above. I looked at TCASII display to see another aircraft pop up on TCASII display behind first skydive aircraft for just a moment, then it disappeared from screen. Seconds later received TCASII RA with a 'descend, descend' message and vsi showing 1500 FPM descent. Found aircraft visually as I descended. It corresponded to the second aircraft that briefly appeared on TCASII screen. After approximately 1000 ft descent, received 'monitor vertical speed' message, followed shortly thereafter by another 'descend, descend' message. I continued descent as aircraft passed abeam to the right. Continued descent while waiting for 'clear of conflict' message. After reaching about 9000 ft, with the aircraft behind us, I decided to return to 11000 ft. We did not receive a 'clear of conflict' message. ZFW advised of RA, and we were cleared to dfw approach control. The mix of skydiving aircraft and dfw inbound arrival aircraft in the area around byp is unacceptable. The wilbr arrival does not provide enough lateral separation between skydive aircraft and dfw arrival traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 CREW RESPONDS TO TCASII RA DURING STAR AT DFW.
Narrative: TTT 042 DEG RADIAL 053 DME. FILED TO DFW VIA BYP 3 ARR. RECLRED WILBR 2 DUE TO SKYDIVING ACFT NEAR BYP. FOUND 1 SKYDIVE ACFT ON TCASII WHEN LEVEL 11000 FT ON WILBR 2 AT RADIAL/DME FIX INDICATED ABOVE. I LOOKED AT TCASII DISPLAY TO SEE ANOTHER ACFT POP UP ON TCASII DISPLAY BEHIND FIRST SKYDIVE ACFT FOR JUST A MOMENT, THEN IT DISAPPEARED FROM SCREEN. SECONDS LATER RECEIVED TCASII RA WITH A 'DSND, DSND' MESSAGE AND VSI SHOWING 1500 FPM DSCNT. FOUND ACFT VISUALLY AS I DSNDED. IT CORRESPONDED TO THE SECOND ACFT THAT BRIEFLY APPEARED ON TCASII SCREEN. AFTER APPROX 1000 FT DSCNT, RECEIVED 'MONITOR VERT SPD' MESSAGE, FOLLOWED SHORTLY THEREAFTER BY ANOTHER 'DSND, DSND' MESSAGE. I CONTINUED DSCNT AS ACFT PASSED ABEAM TO THE R. CONTINUED DSCNT WHILE WAITING FOR 'CLR OF CONFLICT' MESSAGE. AFTER REACHING ABOUT 9000 FT, WITH THE ACFT BEHIND US, I DECIDED TO RETURN TO 11000 FT. WE DID NOT RECEIVE A 'CLR OF CONFLICT' MESSAGE. ZFW ADVISED OF RA, AND WE WERE CLRED TO DFW APCH CTL. THE MIX OF SKYDIVING ACFT AND DFW INBOUND ARR ACFT IN THE AREA AROUND BYP IS UNACCEPTABLE. THE WILBR ARR DOES NOT PROVIDE ENOUGH LATERAL SEPARATION BTWN SKYDIVE ACFT AND DFW ARR TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.